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Question: Which of these racial/ethnic demographic groups does the GOP have the best chance of gaining ground with within the foreseeable future?
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African Americans
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Hispanics
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Asians
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The GOP will not gain ground with any of these
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« on: January 10, 2015, 02:46:00 PM »

The "Southern Strategy" originally referred to the 68 campaign that went after the votes in the Outer South - areas that went for LBJ before voting for Nixon - and was about tapping into opposition to cultural liberalism and federal intrusion broadly, not just on racial issues.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 12:43:17 AM »

The "Southern Strategy" originally referred to the 68 campaign that went after the votes in the Outer South - areas that went for LBJ before voting for Nixon - and was about tapping into opposition to cultural liberalism and federal intrusion broadly, not just on racial issues.

Federal intrusion was largely about racial issues.

A lot of these areas had a very small if any black population.  Racial issues was the most obvious example of federal intrusion, but there was a symbolic and cultural resonance beyond that.  These places hated Yankee liberals a heck of a lot more than they hated blacks.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 11:46:01 AM »

The "Southern Strategy" originally referred to the 68 campaign that went after the votes in the Outer South - areas that went for LBJ before voting for Nixon - and was about tapping into opposition to cultural liberalism and federal intrusion broadly, not just on racial issues.

Federal intrusion was largely about racial issues.

A lot of these areas had a very small if any black population.  Racial issues was the most obvious example of federal intrusion, but there was a symbolic and cultural resonance beyond that.  These places hated Yankee liberals a heck of a lot more than they hated blacks.

I appreciate how difficult it is, as someone from a different generation who has ethical values that are incompatible with racism, to acknowledge this recent history within your party.

There was plenty of, often overt, appeal to racism in the South among Republican candidates. That wasn't "The Southern Strategy," which was just one part of a complicated realignment that took place over six decades.

from the horse's mouth:

Boyd, James. "Nixon's Southern strategy 'It's All In the Charts'", New York Times, May 17, 1970
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 01:26:40 AM »

The keystone of the Southern Strategy was Nixon's working with Strom Thurmond to get his endorsement and behind the scenes support for the 1968 Republican nomination. Nixon's concessions included nominating Supreme Court justices who reflected Thurmond's vies and pulling back on federal enforcement of integration (this was nearly 15 years after Brown.)

Look up Nixon's first two nominations for the Supreme Court: they were from South Carolina and Georgia.

South Carolina and Georgia are not in the upper south.

Nixon's first nominee was Warren Burger, but I see you are referring to two successive failed nominees to fill Fortas' seat. Yes, that is an instance of Nixon wanting to appeal to the South.

The question of what constitutes the Southern Strategy is something of a semantic one, as there was a Dent strategy focused winning the support of the South for Nixon on the nomination and South Carolina with the support of Thurmond, and a Phillips strategy focused on the general election wherein the Outer South is appealed to as one part of a grand national strategy. The latter was what columnist Joe Alsop popularized as the "Southern Strategy" in 68. It is misleading to conflate the two, but perhaps it has to be said more accurately that there were a plurality of Southern strategies, with divisions over whether to follow them.  Nixon's advisors certainly did not speak with anything like a singular voice.
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