House Majority Whip Spoke at White Supremacists Conference

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

Dd I say that she hasn't been successful on her own merits? She quite clearly has been successful on her own merits. She's clearly intelligent and politically savvy. Mia Love is a politician in the Republican Party: being against affirmative action is advantageous for her political standing. It affirms that she's conservative and not "a mooch", of course.

I'm done responding to your posts.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

Dd I say that she hasn't been successful on her own merits? She quite clearly has been successful on her own merits. She's clearly intelligent and politically savvy. Mia Love is a politician in the Republican Party: being against affirmative action is advantageous for her political standing. It affirms that she's conservative and not "a mooch", of course.

I'm done responding to your posts.

You said that she owes it to Mexicans to agree with your position because she has benefited from discrimination. That's hard to square with doing it on her own merits.  Do you ever consider that maybe constantly having her accomplishments denigrated to being due to racial preferences is as much the reason for her position as anything?  The truth of the matter is she has no more duty to support affirmative action than I or anyone else does. If she doesn't believe it's a good policy, her race shouldn't prohibit her from holding that view.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

Dd I say that she hasn't been successful on her own merits? She quite clearly has been successful on her own merits. She's clearly intelligent and politically savvy. Mia Love is a politician in the Republican Party: being against affirmative action is advantageous for her political standing. It affirms that she's conservative and not "a mooch", of course.

I'm done responding to your posts.

You said that she owes it to white Mexicans to agree with your position because she has benefited from discrimination. That's hard to square with doing it on her own merits.  Do you ever consider that maybe constantly having her accomplishments denigrated to being due to racial preferences is as much the reason for her position as anything?  The fact is she has no more duty to support affirmative action than I or anyone else does. If she doesn't believe it's a good policy, her race shouldn't prohibit her from holding that view.

I did not say that "she owes it to white Mexicans", what is this sh[inks]? I originally said that "as a Latino, I take issue with fellow minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination". That is to say, that this is my opinion, which is probably colored by my Latino perspective on issues of race and ethnicity. For what it's worth, this isn't about me. It's about my friends, who deserve better. I think all of them are successful on their own merits. I think Mia Love is successful on her own merits. I also happen to believe that affirmative action forces the impersonal bureaucratic establishment of universities recognize these merits.

I've never met an African-American or a Latino who is opposed to affirmative action. I know they exist and have their own reasons to be opposed to affirmative action but I'm of the opinion that no belief exists in a vaccuum: ideology, policy positions and the like are driven by personal experience. The personal experience of being discriminated against on the basis of race tends to convince people of the importance of affirmative action. In my case, it certainly has.

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Final addendum: I made my original post largely because I wanted to represent the non-white left that feels uncomfortable about the "post-racism" rhetoric of Mia Love, seeing as there is no non-white left on this forum besides me (as far as I know). I respect Simfan's point of view, of course. I don't think Mia Love is a racetraitor or an Uncle Tom. I think that's, as Mikado put it, paternalistic.

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Absolutely beliefs are based in personal experience. So her experience, as she has interpreted it, has led to a different conclusion than yours.  I do know a number of blacks and Latinos who oppose racial preferences, and as for the idea that it is just some position taken for the sake of opportunism - I guess some people insist on believing the worst about those who stray off from the accepted position.

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Richmond is also defending Scalise, saying he knows he doesn't have a racist bone in his body and won't allow him to be made a scapegoat.

funny how Richmond's more full-throated defense of Scalise didn't get noticed here as much as  Love's.

Scalise was friendly with the conference's organizer, Scalise's neighbor Kenny Knight, but his claim that he didn't remmber this and didn't know he was speaking to the group looks like it may be credible, since according to Knight he really spoke to the neighborhood civic organization Knight also leads that was using the room beforehand.

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

I see you've learned quite a bit from our conversations in the Deluge.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

I see you've learned quite a bit from our conversations in the Deluge.

What can be learned from a person who believes in the concept of a "race traitor?"

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I detest Mia Love because she gives credence to the notion that racism isn't a serious problem in America. As a Latino, I take issue with fellow racial minorities who have benefited from negative discrimination but speak out against it for the sake of their own personal promotion

Darn black people being successful on their own merits, always threatening to spoil affirmative action for whites.

I'm Mexican-American and I've been successful on my own merits. I don't need affirmative action but I  think it's a worthwhile policy. Am I the most deserving? No but I have many friends who come from impoverished backgrounds + are Black or Mexican/Mexican-American and have "stats" that are lower than average at their school. They're excellent students but they had less opportunities than many white students with wealthy parents, who went to private college prep schools, and this is partially due to the lasting legacy of racism in the US. I can't say that I approve of politicians who'd

Anyways, your post is a vile strawman: I am speaking for myself as a non-white person and I've always been proud of my own academic achievements. Nevertheless, I acknowledge the necessity of affirmative action. It's an important policy.

If you are a fellow racial minority with Mia Love, on what basis do you say you have been successful on your own merits but she hasn't been?  And how is it that she is the one who's position is judged as being out of seeking personal promotion?

I see you've learned quite a bit from our conversations in the Deluge.

What can be learned from a person who believes in the concept of a "race traitor?"

I'm pretty sure I've admitted those comments were stupid. You can stop trying to run away from your past now.

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I see you've learned quite a bit from our conversations in the Deluge.

umm, sure ?

I'm glad you did anyway.

[Miles]

They're going really down into the weeds with the opposition research on Scalise, back to 1996 (!), but here's what may get thrown around next in this saga:

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