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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2014, 07:40:14 PM »

Richmond is also defending Scalise, saying he knows he doesn't have a racist bone in his body and won't allow him to be made a scapegoat.
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2014, 08:31:15 PM »

Guilt by association sucks. It's also very selective.  Knowing the spineless nature of Republicans,Scalise will get the Lott treatment.

Meanwhile, Democrats will schedule speeches at La Raza, kiss Sharpton's ring, and elect Presidents who attended Jeremiah Wright's church -- without media attention.

Why Republicans will never win Latino or Black voters: they make false equivalencies between white supremacy and Black churches or progressive Black politicians.
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2014, 08:35:14 PM »

Scalise speaks to the Times-Picayune. Emphasis mine.

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« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2014, 08:50:20 PM »

Duke speaks to WaPo. Says he knows Scalise "a very nice guy" and that 2 of Duke's longtime associates invited Scalise to that conference. While Duke himself spoke via teleconference, he did know Scalise was invited.
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« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2014, 08:51:49 PM »

Trent Lott resigned (rightly so) for less than this.
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« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »

Duke says he doesn't know whether Scalise knew what the conference was about. But even if you didn't know, how else could the name "European-American Unity and Rights Organization" be interpreted other than as a white supremacist group?
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2014, 09:12:56 PM »

Anybody who would offended by this already a Democrat. The Republican caucus, especially when there isn't an election for almost two years, isn't going to give a rat's Inks. There will be a new infotainment story tomorrow and everybody will forget all about this.
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2014, 09:19:34 PM »

Cedric Richmond is the most prominent African-American elected official in Louisiana, so him defending Scalise could very well make the difference: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/228228-democrat-scalise-doesnt-have-racist-bone-in-his-body
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2014, 09:21:18 PM »

seriously? It is like going to a Star Trek convention and saying you didn't know Klingons were going to be there.

I suspect that everything this guy has attended, voted on, said, etc is going under the microscope right now.

One thing that has emerged is that he twice voted against establishing a Martin Luther King day and he was one of only 6 and 3 nay votes for those. But perhaps he didn't know what a MLK day was when he cast those votes
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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2014, 09:44:37 PM »

Cedric Richmond is the most prominent African-American elected official in Louisiana, so him defending Scalise could very well make the difference: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/228228-democrat-scalise-doesnt-have-racist-bone-in-his-body

Yeah, this probably gives him the cover he needs to survive this and keep his position.
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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2014, 09:51:42 PM »

seriously? It is like going to a Star Trek convention and saying you didn't know Klingons were going to be there.

I suspect that everything this guy has attended, voted on, said, etc is going under the microscope right now.

One thing that has emerged is that he twice voted against establishing a Martin Luther King day and he was one of only 6 and 3 nay votes for those. But perhaps he didn't know what a MLK day was when he cast those votes
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« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2014, 09:57:06 PM »

I cannot believe some of the things I have read here (by the usual suspects).  Marxists or Al Sharpton (!!!!) are the same as KKK and other racist groups?

Also is Steve King (R-IA) serious?  His comments are disgusting.
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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2014, 10:13:45 PM »

Don't be surprised to see more such stuff.

Let's all remember -- loathsome as David DuKKKe is, the Koch syndicate and its front groups have far more capacity to gut democracy in America.
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2014, 10:38:46 PM »

People are making too big of a deal out of this. It was 12 years ago, and does anybody seriously believe that he meant to support white supremacist ideas?
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« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2014, 10:43:07 PM »

People are making too big of a deal out of this. It was 12 years ago, and does anybody seriously believe that he meant to support white supremacist ideas?

I personally do.  And I'm sure many of his voters probably share those beliefs.  I think it might even improve his favorability ratings in his district.  I'm also sure a big number of his fellow congressmen have a better opinion of him now.
But if the Republicans are serious about not being seen as the racist party they should ask him to quit IMO (unfortunately they're doing the exact opposite).
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« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2014, 10:47:32 PM »
« Edited: December 29, 2014, 10:49:19 PM by Miles »

Some interesting observations:

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Duke himself did an interview on the Donahue show in the 90's where he said MLK day shouldn't be a holiday.

From the Roll Call archives, circa 1999:



After bombing the 1996 Senate race, Duke was pretty much relegated to being a sideshow.
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2014, 10:56:50 PM »

People are making too big of a deal out of this. It was 12 years ago, and does anybody seriously believe that he meant to support white supremacist ideas?

If I say or do something racist, how much time has to elapse before it doesn't matter anymore? Please let me know so that if I ever want to run for office in the future, I can get my white supremacy fix at least a decade or so ahead of time and I should be good in your book.

For someone Scalise's age (he was born in 1965) to have ever had notions of white supremacy in his head is, to me, an automatic disqualifier from holding public office (not literally, but if I were to find out someone had this type of history, I would not vote for them under any circumstances). Even if they had a "change of heart" and repented, I'd say the fact that they were ever sympathetic to that sort of thing is proof that something is wrong with the way their mind works.

Steve Scalise knew exactly who David Duke was, and he favorably compared himself to him anyway and he legitimized a hate group by speaking at their event. There's no context you can add to this to somehow make it okay.
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2014, 11:28:47 PM »

12 years ago is not that long ago and Scalise was already an elected official when he spoke at that conference. He could claim ignorance, but that is never an excuse, as professionals always do their homework. His comments regarding Duke pretty much show he had an attitude that Duke's views were okay, but just needed to be presented in a more subtle, electable package.
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2014, 11:48:00 PM »

Duke tells WaPo that he doesn't think there's video of the conference.
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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2014, 11:48:14 PM »

HuffPost has a pretty interesting article about Scalise and Duke Link.
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« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2014, 11:50:26 PM »

People are making too big of a deal out of this. It was 12 years ago, and does anybody seriously believe that he meant to support white supremacist ideas?

If I say or do something racist, how much time has to elapse before it doesn't matter anymore? Please let me know so that if I ever want to run for office in the future, I can get my white supremacy fix at least a decade or so ahead of time and I should be good in your book.

For someone Scalise's age (he was born in 1965) to have ever had notions of white supremacy in his head is, to me, an automatic disqualifier from holding public office (not literally, but if I were to find out someone had this type of history, I would not vote for them under any circumstances). Even if they had a "change of heart" and repented, I'd say the fact that they were ever sympathetic to that sort of thing is proof that something is wrong with the way their mind works.

Steve Scalise knew exactly who David Duke was, and he favorably compared himself to him anyway and he legitimized a hate group by speaking at their event. There's no context you can add to this to somehow make it okay.

Do you think I'm suggesting its okay? No, I think that people are taking things out of context and exaggerating the situation. I have a very hard time believing that a sitting Congressman elected in 2014 can condone the ideas of David Duke, that's all. What he did was unacceptable and I think he should be forced to resign out of the house or at least give up the majority whip position.
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« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2014, 12:03:19 AM »

Today I learned that democratic socialism is like white supremacy, Al Sharpton is like David Duke, and La Raza is like the KKK.
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« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2014, 12:10:44 AM »

Duke tells WaPo that while he and Scalise didn't have a personal relationship, Scalise knew and was friendly with his campaign manager in '02, and that's why Scalise was invited to the conference.
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« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2014, 12:12:14 AM »

"2002 was a long time ago" is something I'll keep in mind whenever Hillary Clinton and the Iraq War get brought up by my forum friends.
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« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2014, 12:18:23 AM »

seriously? It is like going to a Star Trek convention and saying you didn't know Klingons were going to be there.

I suspect that everything this guy has attended, voted on, said, etc is going under the microscope right now.

One thing that has emerged is that he twice voted against establishing a Martin Luther King day and he was one of only 6 and 3 nay votes for those. But perhaps he didn't know what a MLK day was when he cast those votes
Source for the last paragraph?

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=533842

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=614535
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