NYPD engaged in effective work slowdown; results are awesome

[traininthedistance]

Crime fell more in NY than most other major cities, though. National trends only can account for so much. Did you make the map? Also, here is a useful chart, maybe:

Crime in NYC was lower than in other cities even at the start of Giuliani's tenure, and its downward slope during his tenure looks very similar to the slope in those other cities.

I don't think this chart says what you want it to say.

[Simfan34]

I wasn't trying to make a point about Giuliani per se, however- that's just the graph. Of course the structural reforms of the Koch era cannot be neglected, either, you are right.

[traininthedistance]

Of course the structural reforms of the Koch era cannot be neglected, either, you are right.

Except that crime was going up during Koch's tenure, and started to fall with Dinkins.

[Beet]

Oc, NYC also has a lot of advantages the other cities did not have, particularly other northeastern/rust belt cities.

[Hatman 🍁]

A relevant map.

Wow, go Canada. No state has a lower murder rate than the entire country. Except maybe Iowa?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Which is pretty odd. Iowa is more urban and socially stratified than places like Vermont and Wyoming and Des Moines and Waterloo have higher crime rates than the national average.

Wait Minnesota is lower than North Dakota? And so is Massachusetts?

[Nhoj]

Which is pretty odd. Iowa is more urban and socially stratified than places like Vermont and Wyoming and Des Moines and Waterloo have higher crime rates than the national average.

Wait Minnesota is lower than North Dakota? And so is Massachusetts?

The spike in ND is fairly recent, for obvious reasons.

[King]

I don't understand how anyone could think "let's give out less parking tickets" would be an effective F-U to protesters.

[Mr. Morden]

I don't understand how anyone could think "let's give out less parking tickets" would be an effective F-U to protesters.

It's an F-U to the city leadership, not protestors.

[© tweed]

from NYT: As Police Go Idle, So Do New York City Courts

public defenders with nothing to do.  pirated Batman on a laptop.  overnight Judge goes for a wistful walk 'round the empty halls.



ie: a glimpse into a world without mass incarceration.  the liberal establishment media is of course decrying it all as reprehensible.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

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Massachusetts has some pretty strict gun laws.

[Torie]

If it is really, really good, then there are way, way too many cops, or other unaddressed areas where they should be deployed. Meanwhile what the cops are doing is execrable, totally execrable. It is not their place to set policy through failing to report for duty, or malingering at taxpayer expense while on duty, but to enforce the law, within the law, with the highest professional standards, carrying out policies set by others, not them. Period. If they dislike what's coming down, protest on their own time, within, yes again, the law.

[Sol]

Which is pretty odd. Iowa is more urban and socially stratified than places like Vermont and Wyoming and Des Moines and Waterloo have higher crime rates than the national average.

Wait Minnesota is lower than North Dakota? And so is Massachusetts?

The rez plus oil boom I guess.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

If any of you have read "The Divide" by Matt Taibbi, it is highly relevent to this subject and I strongly recommend you to read it. Half the book is dedicated to portraying how the NYPD works, and portrays the culture of mass incarceration and its impact on the poor and minorities (heavy overlap here) and how mind-numbingly absurd it becomes.

Reading that book, and now hearing about empty courts, is really striking. This work slowdown is a really good thing.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Which is pretty odd. Iowa is more urban and socially stratified than places like Vermont and Wyoming and Des Moines and Waterloo have higher crime rates than the national average.

Wait Minnesota is lower than North Dakota? And so is Massachusetts?

The rez plus oil boom I guess.

Those have resulted in crime, but generally not murder. We still have north Minneapolis, not to mention Phillips which includes Little Earth (which is basically an urban reservation within the city limits), so I'm pretty surprised.

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Christ, I really should take a train in one of these days soon, before the hammer drops once again.  it must feel like Jersualem after they kicked the Romans out in 66AD: free at last, praise YHWH!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

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Christ, I really should take a train in one of these days soon, before the hammer drops once again.  it must feel like Jersualem after they kicked the Romans out in 66AD: free at last, praise YHWH!

If anything, Zealot rule was worse than Roman rule.

[Associate Justice PiT]

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Christ, I really should take a train in one of these days soon, before the hammer drops once again.  it must feel like Jersualem after they kicked the Romans out in 66AD: free at last, praise YHWH!

If anything, Zealot rule was worse than Roman rule.

     Tweed probably expects the police to "return" and kill/exile everyone, though, which would make it a very fitting analogy.

[Simfan34]

Are you still at large, Tweed?

[© tweed]

Are you still at large, Tweed?

the NYPD "failed to file an actionable document" so there was never actually a warrant out for my arrest.  this was all cleared up in Feb of 2013.

[Lief 🗽]

I'm returning to New York on Tuesday. I look forward to the 24/7 bacchanalia that has surely consumed the city at this point.

[© tweed]

I'm returning to New York on Tuesday. I look forward to the 24/7 bacchanalia that has surely consumed the city at this point.

City Hall is cracking down hard, not granting vacations or breaks to officers until the numbers come up.  the party's about to be over.

[traininthedistance]

I'm returning to New York on Tuesday. I look forward to the 24/7 bacchanalia that has surely consumed the city at this point.

Literally the only thing that I've noticed is the return of Showtime!