Happy New Years! Your New Years Present Is Here! :D

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'm back.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I've been known to partake in gay orgies until 5 in the morning on third floors of unmarked buildings in dark alleys off Times Square (vestiges of the "old" Times Square are still there, if you know how to find them).

Eww.

I told you we all have flaws and indiscretions. Besides, my Massachusetts avatar is gone, I'm back, back in the New York groove...

Plus, you might have heard from Fox News, Bill de Blasio is bringing back 1970s New York City, this is like a gay version of Plato's Retreat, no graffiti on the subway cars yet though.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Though I don't mind giving people second chances, have the mods just thrown all that talk about keeping the forum kid-friendly out the window?

Sheesh who would have known that one little remark admitting to my sexual indiscretions would get all the attention in the midst of a long post about a variety of more important things. There was not one vulgar word used in my post. But fine I'll edit it out. I would not wish to taint the ears of the delicate virgins of Atlas Forum.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Though I don't mind giving people second chances, have the mods just thrown all that talk about keeping the forum kid-friendly out the window?

Sheesh who would have known that one little remark admitting to my sexual indiscretions would get all the attention in the midst of a long post about a variety of things. There was not one vulgar word used in my post. But fine I'll edit it out. I would not wish to taint the ears of the delicate virgins of Atlas Forum.

Actually, it's for the minors. I wouldn't get so cocky so soon.

I admitted to some of my personal flaws to you guys and you act as if I posted pornography on the forum based on one sentence in a long post discussing the many changes in my life since I last was here, some of them big changes.

I thought admitting to the imperfections and foibles in my personal life would be an indication of humility.

But whatever, it's gone.

Considering the grudges people still hold against me from six years ago, someone would find something to latch onto and complain about in any introductory post I made and try to stir up trouble rather than try to let the past go.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I think skepticism is a natural and reasonable reaction. And no, you didn't need to go into that level of detail and you know it.

Be serious now, the level of "detail" I provided was nothing, had I actually provided details then I think you would have a point.

I still fail to see what the actual complaint is. If I said "I drank a beer", that's something a minor should not be doing, would that be making this forum "kid-unfriendly" by acknowledging the existence of adult activities?

Anyway, the lines you chose to make controversy out of have already been edited out and were never the central focus of this thread and I am done talking about them. The people who disliked me then will continue to dislike me now and will latch onto anything to criticize, but I do not wish to engage in arguing with such people. It's like Barack Obama trying to convince a dirt-poor white Tea Partier that his policies are actually better for him than the Republicans', you can't be reasoned with and acknowledge that people can change for the better between ages 18 and 24.

This thread was made with the intention of introducing or re-introducing myself to the Atlas Forum in a positive way as I am a different person than the Libertas who was banned all those years ago.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

The mechanics of group sex seem rather disturbing.

This is also what I took away from the OP. Still, this should be a fun experiment.

I think people who are "taking away" the "mechanics of group sex" from the OP should perhaps psychoanalyze why their own brains zeroed in on this idea from a post which had nothing to do with the "mechanics of group sex".

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Can opebo come back now too?

It seems pointless to uphold any bans now.

Really? All bans are the same, there is no attention to be paid to any of individual circumstances surrounding the person and the ban? I was banned for the crime of "excessive hyperbole" back when I was a 19 year old right-wing "libertarian" troll who railed against the fascist takeover of America by Barack Obama. Contrary to what Polnut is thinking, I was fully self-aware that I was a ridiculous and mischievous troll back then. I still wonder why anyone actually took me seriously back then.

But I am not the same person as the teenager who was banned, I hardly even know who you are yet you are prejudging me as being unworthy of a second chance after being banned for years.  

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

A Libertarian isn't a Libertarian anymore now that he's grown up? Say it ain't so!

I abandoned Libertarianism around age 21. First I changed my enrollment to the Green Party for about a year until I settled upon getting involved in Democratic Party politics and influencing that party from within. Are there any Libertarians who remain Libertarians beyond adolescence?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Worst New years present ever.

And another person I hardly remember interacting with now prejudging me negatively...

It's been like 4 years, let it go and give me another chance to contribute to this forum in a positive way.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Worst New years present ever.

And another person I hardly remember interacting with now prejudging me negatively...

It's been like 4 years, let it go and give me another chance to contribute to this forum in a positive way.

The ones we did have were probably negative and not interacting much doesn't mean I didn't read the forum at the time.
In any case im not prejudging, since you have already made new posts by which to judge you by and the conclusion is the same.

Um yeah you are kinda prejudging considering I've made like 10 posts at most on the entire forum since the unbanning, and I don't see how you can draw a fair conclusion about me based on those posts. I've made a grand total of one new thread to introduce myself back to the Atlas community as the different person I am today. I don't see how you can decide I am an HP based on anything I've posted since being unbanned.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Can opebo come back now too?

It seems pointless to uphold any bans now.

Really? All bans are the same, there is no attention to be paid to any of individual circumstances surrounding the person and the ban? I was banned for the crime of "excessive hyperbole" back when I was a 19 year old right-wing "libertarian" troll who railed against the fascist takeover of America by Barack Obama. Contrary to what Polnut is thinking, I was fully self-aware that I was a ridiculous and mischievous troll back then. I still wonder why anyone actually took me seriously back then.

But I am not the same person as the teenager who was banned, I hardly even know who you are yet you are prejudging me as being unworthy of a second chance after being banned for years.  

No one took you 'seriously', we all knew you were a damaged troll. Considering the damage you did, it's a bit rich to not cop any criticism or skepticism from those of us who saw and felt your actions. Saying you've changed is one thing, actually acting like you have is another.

Many, many members of this forum took me far, far more seriously than I took myself.

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This was an introduction thread wishing a happy new years and making the community aware that I was back but had changed, highlighting changes in my own life. Nobody was forced to read it or even click on it. After being banned for four years some sort of introduction thread was warranted rather than just suddenly appearing in threads.

You can be skeptical but considering me an HP based solely on this thread- and a grudge from the past- is prejudging me based on nothing but fluff.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

The mechanics of group sex seem rather disturbing.

This is also what I took away from the OP. Still, this should be a fun experiment.

I think people who are "taking away" the "mechanics of group sex" from the OP should perhaps psychoanalyze why their own brains zeroed in on this idea from a post which had nothing to do with the "mechanics of group sex".

Which is a long winded way of saying nothing at all.

My post had nothing to with "the mechanics of group sex". That line of thought came out of your own brain.


I wonder if a poster said "I had sex last night", that would get the same attacks as making this forum "kid-unfriendly". Or is it only when the sex involves more than 2 people that it becomes "kid-unfriendly".

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I've been known to partake in gay orgies until 5 in the morning on third floors of unmarked buildings in dark alleys off Times Square (vestiges of the "old" Times Square are still there, if you know how to find them).

Sheesh you guys are obsessed, but well I guess if it involves sex....funny how there was an alleged concern about how my acknowledging the existence of human sexual behavior would make the forum unsafe for minors, I immediately deleted my sex-related comment in response to this concern... yet sex is all you guys want to keep talking about.

Just for the record, the 'parties' I went to were not seedy dirty affairs where anyone could walk in, they're very exclusive, there are no signs or advertisements, you have to be invited by someone who is already in and then you have to be judged attractive enough to be allowed in- and then pay a pretty steep "clothes checking fee". I was kinda sorta dating a Broadway actor who introduced me to it and we would go together the first time and he got me in, and most of the guys are actually Broadway actors. While the outside of the building was nondescript, the room where these parties take place is a giant multi-room luxurious suite. And everything was safe, condoms were ubiquitous and I'm on the pill anyway.

I crave excitement; excitement like this can be difficult to find in post-Giuliani/Bloomberg NYC and that is the primary reason I go to them. I don't go to them when I am in relationships, but there are large gaps between when a relationship falls apart and a new one forms.

Now I don't see how there was anything that would damage minors from my initial unedited post, unless you think any acknowledgement of the existence of human sexual behavior is damaging to minors, i.e. you think the statement "I had sex" is inappropriate and not "kid-friendly". But whatever, I edited out the reference hours ago. I had not realized the extreme prudery that had taken hold here which wasn't the case when I was here last time around.

And it was one tiny insignificant sentence in a long post containing more important things, which I've since decided to do away with completely.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

The pill?

A gay guy says he's on the pill.  He's likely referring to Truvada.

Yeah I still use condoms and insist on condoms but I take Truvada too just in case. Especially for situations like that when things are happening very quickly and there a lot of guys around and you have a few drinks in you.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

We didn't get along too well back in the day, but welcome back.

Also interesting how the forum's two leading libertarians of the ~2010 era (Liberas and wormyguy) are no longer libertarians.

Why thank you for the kind welcome back!

I think most teenaged "libertarians" grow out of that phase. The ones who don't....

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Also interesting how the forum's two leading libertarians of the ~2010 era (Liberas and wormyguy) are no longer libertarians.

I think most teenaged "libertarians" grow out of that phase. The ones who don't....

Hardly surprising, really.  Turns out I was correct all along.  

(Even Winston ended up a leftist, for all his petulant denial at the time.)

I don't know exactly why "libertarianism" appeals so strongly to adolescent males, there must be more to it than it being a 'rebellious' ideology, though I have some ideas.

But somehow the Libertarian Party does have grown adults in it.

Didn't Winston go all over the map with extreme ideologies? I'm pretty sure he abandoned libertarianism and became a Stalinist instead.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Welcome back! Don't let the prudes bring you down.

Thanks!

Maybe I will restore the OP to its full original state. I don't know if these "kid-friendly" prudes who clutched their pearls over me saying the word "orgy" really have any merits to their complaint.

Or maybe its the "gay" part, which would make them homophobic prudes.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Welcome back! Don't let the prudes bring you down.

Actually I LOLed when Polnut suggested I had gone into too much "detail" by mentioning the word "orgy" in the OP, thinking of how much REAL detail I could go into about what happens at these orgy parties that would give them something valid to complain about.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

For what it's worth, I am not opposed to Libertas returning (especially since he's apparently some sort of Democratic party-hack gay hedonist now). I just hope that this opens the door for poor, innocent opebo to soon return as well.

Why is opebo banned?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

For what it's worth, I am not opposed to Libertas returning (especially since he's apparently some sort of Democratic party-hack gay hedonist now). I just hope that this opens the door for poor, innocent opebo to soon return as well.

Why is opebo banned?

Persistent trolling.

But he was here forever, and his schtick was always the same for like a decade...if opebo was banned that means nobody is safe.

Was it Nym or Dave Leip who brought the ban hammer upon opebo?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Well, at least he's hot.

Lol um thx. :$

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Welcome back, former FF. 

I really miss the old Libertas. Used to really enjoy reading your posts, but this new schtick is already almost too much.

Well you have my apologies, but the old Libertas never really existed, he was a work of fiction. And what was there to enjoy about the old Libertas?

In this thread I have been complimented by being called "hot", an "FF", and "some sort of Democratic party-hack gay hedonist", so the 2015 version of me seems to be more popular overall.

I know there are some people who liked the "old" Libertas who will miss him. But I'm sure there are other teenaged right-wing "libertarian" trolls who have joined the forum since to satisfy that quota.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No offense dude but the content of this thread suggests that your attention-seeking issues are far from behind you.

I don't know you, but the content of the few posts I have read from you suggest misogyny and bigotry and issues far worse than anything you are accusing me of.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

What a great introduction

You missed my original introduction post because a few posters took issue with one line that acknowledged the existence of human sexual behavior, and also apparently because it was "attention-seeking" to actually introduce myself by sharing a few notable things about my life (including my political background and election campaign experience) and changes that have occurred since I was last on the forum.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Good to know that the mob of worthless cretins on the mod team somehow managed to learn literally nothing from the Einzige debacle!

Lol we were friends while I was here right up until I was banned, then you decided I was evil and have been the most vociferous opponent of my unbanning.

As evidence, posts dated as late as November 28, 2010, just weeks before I was banned, in which you endorsed me for the Senate and gave me a smiley face out of personal friendship even though you acknowledged we had 'massive political differences'.

Given our massive political differences I'm not sure if I can endorse you, but good luck.

I doubt you'll need my vote to win anyway.

Endorsed. We don't agree on, uh, anything, really, but debate's a good thing.

So we were friends until the end while I was here...at which point during the 4 years I was BANNED and unable to post anything did you decide I was Satan and that unbanning me would be the downfall of Atlas Forum?