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« Reply #150 on: January 30, 2015, 09:57:10 PM »

Well, I voted.

Anyway, I'll predict something like:

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LNP: 52.2%
ALP: 47.9%

LNP - 45
ALP - 38
Crossbench - 6

Newman to lose Ashgrove but probably reenter parliament on a by-election.

I would be startled if that happens... the LNP will want to blame Newman and Abbott and move on. I'm expecting a civil war between the Libs and Nats - the Nats have been furious at Newman and the Southern Liberals for being too SE-centric ... the Ns will be trying to restore their position.
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« Reply #151 on: January 30, 2015, 10:09:24 PM »

I would be startled if that happens... the LNP will want to blame Newman and Abbott and move on. I'm expecting a civil war between the Libs and Nats - the Nats have been furious at Newman and the Southern Liberals for being too SE-centric ... the Ns will be trying to restore their position.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic too. It just seems too neat that he'll just shuffle off after losing his seat. I'm probably underestimating the extent to which he's hated by his party though.

I can definitely see civil war between Nats and Libs. It's amazing how unpopular the LNP have become in regional Queensland.
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« Reply #152 on: January 30, 2015, 10:15:34 PM »

Considering the mix of geographies, we'd be in minority government territory with an LNP 51-49 TPP win.

Very interesting in that case. I know Labor won a comfortable win with less than that in 2009, which seems to have a lot of commentators on other sites convinced that Queensland's political geography actually favors the ALP. I don't know how true that is; it just seems to me that the state overall is very idiosyncratic and weird.

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I think Queensland political geography in general is rather fluid - there seems to be a fair amount of marginal seats, far more than say NSW (which is notorously inelastic). Perhaps it's because there aren't that many leafy suburbs in Brisbane - only places like Indooroopilly and Moggill really fit what you see in the Eastern suburbs of Melbourne and the North Shore of Sydney. That said, there are more safe LNP seats than safe Labor ones.

Plus a few more leafy suburbs in Clayfield. The opposite bank of the river is also gentrifying (Bulimba), but it also contains many old Labor areas. Indooroopilly contains a few leafy suburbs, but also areas that are strongly student, making Prahran in Victoria a better comparison (if Prahran had a little more of Toorak and a little less of Windsor).

I suspect that much of the reason Brisbane has less diverse electorates is because there is a greater diversity within electorates - probably due to the city council covering the Greater Brisbane Area, rather than smaller borough-style councils of Melbourne and Sydney (where wealthy suburbs are in their own municipalities, and their property rates are spent within those municipalities).
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« Reply #153 on: January 31, 2015, 01:45:04 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2015, 01:50:10 AM by Senator Polnut »

Some reports out suggesting that, at least anecdotally, the chances of a the LNP not having a majority are larger than the LNP getting over 50 seats. Some are saying the LNP don't feel comfortable about any seats below 12-13%.

This could be much uglier than I was anticipating. I'm tempted to change my prediction to a hung parliament... but I can't bring myself to do it.
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« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2015, 02:09:55 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2015, 02:14:55 AM by Senator Polnut »

The Galaxy exit poll has it as 54-46 ... to the ALP. Based largely that the GRN primary isn't exhausting.

But, I'm extremely wary of it. The polls haven't closed and I just don't but it...
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« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2015, 02:48:02 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2015, 02:50:06 AM by Talleyrand »

The Galaxy exit poll has it as 54-46 ... to the ALP. Based largely that the GRN primary isn't exhausting.

But, I'm extremely wary of it. The polls haven't closed and I just don't but it...

That would be an unprecedented polling failure in recent years. It'll be an LNP win, although Newman is finished. Exit poll has it 56-44 to the ALP in Ashgrove.

BTW, where can I find the ABC livestream?
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« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2015, 02:58:21 AM »

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

Hopefully, they will make this internationally available in a few minutes.

Alternatively, you can listen to the ABC Radio coverage: http://www.abc.net.au/radio/player/beta/#live/local_brisbane
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« Reply #157 on: January 31, 2015, 03:01:05 AM »

According to both ALP and LNP sources ... the exit poll is closer to reality than the public polling (which is based on 2012 ie horrendous preference flows).

Try the ABC website - maybe a bit-entirely-legal stream
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« Reply #158 on: January 31, 2015, 03:08:15 AM »

Looked at it,  but ABC hasn't been made international yet; I'm currently watching Channel 9 instead while I wait for geo-block to be removed.

Lot of hype about an ALP win. Lol.
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« Reply #159 on: January 31, 2015, 03:12:11 AM »

Looked at it,  but ABC hasn't been made international yet; I'm currently watching Channel 9 instead while I wait for geo-block to be removed.

Lot of hype about an ALP win. Lol.

Don't be too quick to laugh ... that's all I'm saying
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« Reply #160 on: January 31, 2015, 03:14:38 AM »

Apparently the ALP's internals were showing numbers similar to the exit poll, so it appears that it's not a total aberration.  Should be interesting!
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« Reply #161 on: January 31, 2015, 03:22:33 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2015, 03:44:17 AM by Talleyrand »

Antony Green- 14% swing in first booth from Cook.

Liz Cunningham's Independent in Gladstone is doing very well.
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« Reply #162 on: January 31, 2015, 04:05:18 AM »

Interesting- Massive swings to ALP in Bundaberg and Toowoomba South. They'll stay LNP, but now it makes sense why Newman spent time here this week.
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« Reply #163 on: January 31, 2015, 04:05:49 AM »

Newman behind by 11%.
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« Reply #164 on: January 31, 2015, 04:12:58 AM »

The ABC now has the ALP on 40 seats...
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« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2015, 04:13:51 AM »

I just saw that - with the LNP on only 36. I suppose it's still early.
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« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2015, 04:15:37 AM »

Never really a surprise, but Ashgrove's gone.
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« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2015, 04:17:29 AM »

These results are looking fantastic.
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« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2015, 04:17:58 AM »

Still early days, but I think Labor might win this.
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« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2015, 04:20:53 AM »

20 point swing to ALP in Bundaberg. As Morgieb has said, it was held by Labor for over a hundred years before 2006, but it's now on a 18% margin. Amazing.
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« Reply #170 on: January 31, 2015, 04:24:56 AM »

I just saw that - with the LNP on only 36. I suppose it's still early.

And now they're at 42 seats. I'm thinking there may be a hung parliament, or even a Labor victory.
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« Reply #171 on: January 31, 2015, 04:25:23 AM »

This is absolutely astonishing.  The LNP made history in 2012, but for Labor to come back at this margin from just 7 seats at that last election is something entirely more remarkable.
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« Reply #172 on: January 31, 2015, 04:28:45 AM »

I'm flabbergasted... Utterly
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« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2015, 04:30:15 AM »

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« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2015, 04:32:56 AM »

This is just stunning.
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