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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2015, 01:39:29 AM »
« edited: January 04, 2015, 01:41:38 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

That claim just isn't true. The myth of the moderate GOP is quite annoying. While it didn't have the Tea Party fervor, it was still a staunchly right wing party.
What? lol of course it was moderate, it supported the New Deal, the Civil Rights movement, the Voting Rights Act, and the Social Security program. Of course it was moderate. It was Goldwater then Reagan that changed it to be right-wing. What kind of revisionist history are you pushing lol?

Willkie and Eisenhower would be conservative by today's standards? Really?

Wilkie was a Democrat until 1939. Ike was non-political at best in terms of Parties and held membership more because of origins ("good KS Republicans"), but an astute political operator thanks to his time serving under McArthur and others. THis meant he was less of an ideologue and more of a smooth operator and thus willing to act as the times necessitated politically speaking.

RI Senator Nelson Aldrich thought the income tax communistic in the 1890's, and only agreed to passing the amendment as part of a scheme in 1909/1910 that would "ensure" it was dead forever. The politics of the progressive era outran him on that front and caused it to pass. You also rather Conservative Republicans dominating the GOP nationwide as late as the 1920's and considering the absence of any Southerners in the Party, it was thanks to the NE And midwest and their pre-New Deal demography. It was a New York Senator that led the opposition to the FDA. You did have progressives like Roosevelt and others, and therefore it is easy to say that the GOP was split, but it is impossible to say that GOP Conservativism was a late 20th century construct, when its presence within the Party dates back to its formation.

If anything Goldwater and Reagan were the result of the vast majority of rank and file Republicans being decidedly Conservative (WASPs that skew heavily towards wealthy and middle class. Not exactly going to be at forefront of many liberal and progressive reforms). If anything was the aberation from the norm, it was the liberalism of the 1930's-1960's.
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2015, 06:39:46 PM »

That claim just isn't true. The myth of the moderate GOP is quite annoying. While it didn't have the Tea Party fervor, it was still a staunchly right wing party.
What? lol of course it was moderate, it supported the New Deal, the Civil Rights movement, the Voting Rights Act, and the Social Security program. Of course it was moderate. It was Goldwater then Reagan that changed it to be right-wing. What kind of revisionist history are you pushing lol?

Willkie and Eisenhower would be conservative by today's standards? Really?

Wilkie was a Democrat until 1939. Ike was non-political at best in terms of Parties and held membership more because of origins ("good KS Republicans"), but an astute political operator thanks to his time serving under McArthur and others. THis meant he was less of an ideologue and more of a smooth operator and thus willing to act as the times necessitated politically speaking.

RI Senator Nelson Aldrich thought the income tax communistic in the 1890's, and only agreed to passing the amendment as part of a scheme in 1909/1910 that would "ensure" it was dead forever. The politics of the progressive era outran him on that front and caused it to pass. You also rather Conservative Republicans dominating the GOP nationwide as late as the 1920's and considering the absence of any Southerners in the Party, it was thanks to the NE And midwest and their pre-New Deal demography. It was a New York Senator that led the opposition to the FDA. You did have progressives like Roosevelt and others, and therefore it is easy to say that the GOP was split, but it is impossible to say that GOP Conservativism was a late 20th century construct, when its presence within the Party dates back to its formation.

If anything Goldwater and Reagan were the result of the vast majority of rank and file Republicans being decidedly Conservative (WASPs that skew heavily towards wealthy and middle class. Not exactly going to be at forefront of many liberal and progressive reforms). If anything was the aberation from the norm, it was the liberalism of the 1930's-1960's.
What in the hell are you talking about LOL? The Progressive movement was composed of pretty much ONLY middle class and upper class individuals! That was in the early 1900s, if you didn't know that much.

I'm done lol. Please go look up the Progressive Movement in America. You know very little about this subject, I can tell.

Using a man's death to further your political beliefs is just sickening. No thanks. You know as well as I do that the Republican Party has trended HARD conservative in the past few decades. It was never like this.
We are not using Brooks death to politicize anything. You are embracing a revisionist history of the GOP. It is rather silly to judge an entire party due to a string of moderate nominees.
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2015, 09:13:00 PM »

Superflash, you've sounded a lot smarter in previous posts...

RIP to a massive FF.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2015, 04:24:54 AM »

RIP Sad
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2015, 07:42:53 AM »

RIP. A true Republican of the old school. Embarrassingly I don't have much more to say.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2015, 02:19:20 PM »

A shame BaBa WaWa no longer is on The View.  Would have been interesting to see if she had any comment to make.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2015, 02:29:55 PM »

Major FF. A testament to America's boundless opportunity. Rest in peace.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2015, 02:57:53 PM »

RIP
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2015, 05:38:09 PM »

I was aware he was alive mainly because of the flap about whether Barbara Walters had an affair with him back in the day.

RIP.

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2015, 10:56:42 PM »

RIP. He was a pretty decent guy and a truly fantastic politician especially by Republican standards.
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