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« on: January 04, 2015, 05:46:07 PM »

Sestak wins 52 - 47 this time, Hillary's coattails carry him along the way.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 06:13:29 PM »

Maybe. Toomey's carved out a bipartisan image for himself in recent years, he could hold on.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 06:15:08 PM »

Sestak wins 52 - 47 this time, Hillary's coattails carry him along the way.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 07:08:36 PM »

I think it will be quite close, and it will depend on how competitive the Republican candidate is in Pennsylvania. For now, I'll guess Sestak wins 50-48.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 07:24:25 PM »

Maybe. Toomey's carved out a bipartisan image for himself in recent years, he could hold on.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 07:38:15 PM »

Maybe. Toomey's carved out a bipartisan image for himself in recent years, he could hold on.

What bipartisan image besides Manchin-Toomey which failed? His voting record is not very moderate in fact he's one of the most conservative in the Senate. Hard to craft a bipartisan image after leading a group like Club for Growth after all.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 08:04:38 PM »

Sestak 51-48
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 08:29:43 PM »

Toomey 52-48.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 08:51:58 PM »

Toomey by about the same. If Specter held on in a presidential year, so can he, and Toomey has become relatively popular in his own right anyway
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 09:53:41 PM »

Sestak 52-48. I think a Republican majority Senate is somewhat of a plus for him going into the campaign.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 02:29:47 AM »

I'll say a mirror image of last time. 51-49 Sestak.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 02:30:37 AM »

Toomey by about the same. If Specter held on in a presidential year, so can he, and Toomey has become relatively popular in his own right anyway

Toomey is no Specter, and Sestak is no Hoeffel.

Oh, and Hillary is no Kerry. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 12:29:11 PM »

51-47 Sestak
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 02:24:28 PM »

Toomey by about the same. If Specter held on in a presidential year, so can he, and Toomey has become relatively popular in his own right anyway

Toomey is no Specter, and Sestak is no Hoeffel.

Oh, and Hillary is no Kerry. Wink

And 2016 is no 2004. In 2004 Blanche Lincoln cruised to reelection while Bush was carrying Arkansas by double digits (IIRC).
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2015, 02:42:00 PM »

Maybe. Toomey's carved out a bipartisan image for himself in recent years, he could hold on.

What bipartisan image besides Manchin-Toomey which failed? His voting record is not very moderate in fact he's one of the most conservative in the Senate. Hard to craft a bipartisan image after leading a group like Club for Growth after all.

It was well publicized and more than enough to give him such an image. Just because someone isn't bipartisan doesn't mean they can't be perceived that way.
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2015, 03:14:53 PM »

What has Joe Sestak done since 2010? Seriously asking.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2015, 03:18:14 PM »

Maybe. Toomey's carved out a bipartisan image for himself in recent years, he could hold on.

What bipartisan image besides Manchin-Toomey which failed? His voting record is not very moderate in fact he's one of the most conservative in the Senate. Hard to craft a bipartisan image after leading a group like Club for Growth after all.

Telling the voters "You're wrong" in their perception of moderation doesn't actually do anything.
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2015, 03:30:47 PM »

Toomey in the high single digits, maybe 53-45. But basically any answer, up to and between either candidate winning in the low double digits, is defensible and possible based on what the environment will be like in 2016, because it's still too early to have any idea.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2015, 03:41:16 PM »

Card check was definately an issue in 2010, because the Dems were near the 60 votes thresehold to pass it, but 2016 will be a different animal, cause the G O P are in charge and the Dems are gonna win PA in a presidential election by a high single digit margin.

I say Sestak due to the Hilary coattails, but it will also depend on how our House races goes, and PA is very important in keeping that 272 firewall, combined with CO/NV/ and NH needed to clinch the presidential election.

Also, equal pay and minimum wage are also important to background checks, and they were blocked, which Kirk/Toomey/Johnson/Ayotte withheld support from. It will be interesting to see how the issue plays out with the Hilary camp.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2015, 06:25:34 PM »

Toomey in the high single digits, maybe 53-45. But basically any answer, up to and between either candidate winning in the low double digits, is defensible and possible based on what the environment will be like in 2016, because it's still too early to have any idea.

That's going out on quite a limb. 45% tends to be a floor for each party except in the case of very popular (Specter, Rendell) or very unpopular (Santorum) incumbents.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2015, 08:10:48 AM »

Toomey by about the same. If Specter held on in a presidential year, so can he, and Toomey has become relatively popular in his own right anyway

Toomey is no Specter, and Sestak is no Hoeffel.

Oh, and Hillary is no Kerry. Wink

And 2016 is no 2004. In 2004 Blanche Lincoln cruised to reelection while Bush was carrying Arkansas by double digits (IIRC).

Ok but we don't know what 2016 will be like so let's settle down. 2010 was supposed to bring over 60 Dem Senate seats, remember? 2012 was supposed to bring a GOP Senate majority, remember? 

What has Joe Sestak done since 2010? Seriously asking.

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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2015, 12:36:19 PM »

What has Joe Sestak done since 2010? Seriously asking.

Running for Senate, really. He signaled that he wanted to run again in like 2011. He's been running around the state and he's got his exploratory committee going.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2015, 05:20:41 PM »

What has Joe Sestak done since 2010? Seriously asking.

Running for Senate, really. He signaled that he wanted to run again in like 2011. He's been running around the state and he's got his exploratory committee going.

"Running around the state" is up for debate. He hasn't been a highly visible surrogate or anything. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2015, 05:54:17 PM »

I have a weird gut feeling that Toomey hangs on, I don't know why. My mind is teling me Sestak by a couple points though.
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 05:35:07 PM »

I wouldn't at all be surprised by a Toomey win. Toomey's star has risen over the last few years and Sestak is a has-been. This race could be 50-50 even while Clinton's winning PA by 12 points or so.
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