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« on: January 08, 2015, 05:19:17 PM »

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michael-dunn-sentenced-life-without-parole-loud-music-killing-n228191

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 05:27:25 PM »

Should probably have been death, of course, but I'll take it. Would probably have been death, too, if Dunn was black.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 05:51:59 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 05:57:54 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2015, 06:57:10 PM by True Federalist »

The death penalty is usually applied to cop-killings, robbery-murders. serial killings, contract killings, and murders involving child abuse or spouse abuse.

I trust that he will soon find out how fun prison can be...  Let your imagination run free.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 06:02:42 PM »

Good. Hope he enjoys prison.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 06:06:13 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2015, 06:58:00 PM by True Federalist »

Enjoy your lifetime you neanderthal.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 06:12:39 PM »

Don't joke about prison rape.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 06:14:44 PM »

Good. This was a completely unambiguous case of a psychopath taking out his rage on a car of innocent teenagers, and he got what he deserved.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 06:15:54 PM »

Thank god.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2015, 06:22:24 PM »


nor is it particularly humane to celebrate locking someone in a box til death.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2015, 06:22:41 PM »

I'm still surprised he was convicted at all. He said it was self-defense and usually that's accepted as the gospel in these sorts of cases.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2015, 06:28:58 PM »

I'm still surprised he was convicted at all. He said it was self-defense and usually that's accepted as the gospel in these sorts of cases.

I don't know anything about the case besides the small blurb -- that he pumped ten bullets into a carful of people.  unless he knew them beforehand, how could that meet the threshold of first-degree murder?
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2015, 06:36:57 PM »

I'm still surprised he was convicted at all. He said it was self-defense and usually that's accepted as the gospel in these sorts of cases.

I don't know anything about the case besides the small blurb -- that he pumped ten bullets into a carful of people.  unless he knew them beforehand, how could that meet the threshold of first-degree murder?

I'm pretty sure that first degree murder isn't contingent on whether or not you know the person. Even if you assume there was no premeditation, this case definitely is not a second or third degree one.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2015, 06:40:25 PM »

I'm still surprised he was convicted at all. He said it was self-defense and usually that's accepted as the gospel in these sorts of cases.

There has to be some ambiguity for the jury to go for it. Here we had no weapon on the victim, no evidence of a struggle, and a massive use of force against people who were in the car and posing no threat to him.

Like, I don't think the jury would have acquitted Zimmerman if Trayvon Martin was shot from ten feet away in the back, either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »

Good.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2015, 09:40:43 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2015, 09:44:39 PM »

Excellent news. 
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2015, 09:54:02 PM »

People get life in prison for murder quite often.  Is there a reason this is gaining national attention?
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2015, 10:24:11 PM »

People get life in prison for murder quite often.  Is there a reason this is gaining national attention?

White guy killed Minority in heinous (and excessive) manner. That's basically why it gained national attention.
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2015, 10:25:27 PM »

People get life in prison for murder quite often.  Is there a reason this is gaining national attention?
The incident got national attention around the time the Zimmerman trial happened. Perhaps it was a reflection of that.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2015, 10:35:38 PM »


nor is it particularly humane to celebrate locking someone in a box til death.

nor should anyone ever use the word "Neanderthal" as an insult. It's just ignorant.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2015, 10:52:03 PM »

Good ... Where blatant, remorseless murderers belong...
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2015, 10:54:57 PM »

I disapprove. Not because Dunn isn't guilty or deserving (which he clearly is), but because he was already sentenced to an effective life sentence on the lesser charges, and retrying him on the murder one was a waste of time and resources. It probably was only done because Florida wanted to save face after the Zimmerman verdict.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2015, 09:12:45 AM »

I'm still surprised he was convicted at all. He said it was self-defense and usually that's accepted as the gospel in these sorts of cases.

Self-defense requires a reasonable (even if mistaken) cause to fear either death or severe bodily harm with a need for forceful defense, typically where escape or retreat is impossible. Fear of another due to ethnicity, culture, or religion (animus) does not qualify.   
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2015, 06:59:36 PM »

Another victory against Stand Your Ground. We had one of those here in the Renisha McBride case, where a girl knocked on Theodore Wafer's door in the middle of the night looking for help after a car accident, and instead got a shotgun blast to the face. Finally they'll both be somewhere where they won't be harming anyone else.
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