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Murica!
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« on: January 12, 2015, 01:43:29 PM »
« edited: January 12, 2015, 01:58:07 PM by Murica! »

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 01:52:29 PM »

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2015, 01:59:04 PM »

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...
I'm an Anarchist so you know that is not what I meant.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 01:59:25 PM »

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...

Wouldn't that actually be considered both?
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2015, 02:02:01 PM »

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...

Wouldn't that actually be considered both?
Not really, the Kolhozy were really State owned and operated.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 02:04:32 PM »

For whatever reason, this thread reminds me of a classic Atlas post:

What is your stance on genocide? Do you favor or oppose it?
if it were put as a bill and if I were to vote on it, then I would not vote.

I would put forth to the senate a resolution to a bill that included this. One that permited  genocide in certain situations and not in others. But, I would not vote on a bill that either permitted genocide in all situations or one that did not permit genocide in all situations. I think that we need a compromise between those two.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015, 02:10:14 PM »

For whatever reason, this thread reminds me of a classic Atlas post:

What is your stance on genocide? Do you favor or oppose it?
if it were put as a bill and if I were to vote on it, then I would not vote.

I would put forth to the senate a resolution to a bill that included this. One that permited  genocide in certain situations and not in others. But, I would not vote on a bill that either permitted genocide in all situations or one that did not permit genocide in all situations. I think that we need a compromise between those two.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 02:15:32 PM »

The inner cynic in me would say Nationalization, the inner free-spirited teenager would say collectivization.

Ultimately, both is the best compromise.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2015, 11:21:41 PM »

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.


Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2015, 11:40:08 PM »

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.


Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?

First paragraph is completely illegible. And yes they are(I'm part of the armed left), unless a serious danger i.e have a mental illness.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2015, 11:54:17 PM »

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.


Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?

First paragraph is completely illegible. And yes they are(I'm part of the armed left), unless a serious danger i.e have a mental illness.
So, you have moved over to the Hillary campaign.
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Murica!
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2015, 11:59:52 PM »

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.


Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?

First paragraph is completely illegible. And yes they are(I'm part of the armed left), unless a serious danger i.e have a mental illness.
So, you have moved over to the Hillary campaign.
Murica!.exe has stopped working.
Please shut down and try again later.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 11:13:08 AM »

Flee the country.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2015, 06:41:04 PM »

Collectivization, insofar that there would be personal properties and social ownership of everything else.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 03:39:09 PM »

The inner cynic in me would say Nationalization, the inner free-spirited teenager would say collectivization.

Ultimately, both is the best compromise.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2015, 12:44:20 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2015, 01:16:39 PM »

Not a good thread. Anyway,

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2015, 04:31:46 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2015, 04:55:35 PM »

How about neither?
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Murica!
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2015, 11:45:13 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2015, 03:22:15 PM by Murica! »

Why would you disagree with collectivization though? It gets rid of central authority and increases productivity, and is totally voluntary. Oh wait, you right libertarians are always willing to have freedom as long as it doesn't harm your corporate buddies.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2015, 06:46:14 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2015, 06:48:29 PM by Deus Naturae »

Where are you even getting this definition of "collectivization" from? I just Googled it and pretty much all of the results are related to collective farming or just collectivism in general.
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Murica!
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2015, 07:52:50 PM »

Where are you even getting this definition of "collectivization" from? I just Googled it and pretty much all of the results are related to collective farming or just collectivism in general.
Strange, I can't find anything on industrial collectivism either.
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2015, 09:00:40 AM »


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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2015, 12:31:08 PM »


His parents bought him a water pistol for his 12th birthday?
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Murica!
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2015, 12:53:54 PM »

If by water pistol you mean a .22 yeah, though I bought it myself after I had turned 18 and moved out.
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