Collectivization or Nationalization or both?

[Murica!]

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.

[Murica!]

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...

I'm an Anarchist so you know that is not what I meant.

[Murica!]

The former word is pretty much entirely associated with a certain thing that happened in the Soviet Union under Stalin...

Wouldn't that actually be considered both?

Not really, the Kolhozy were really State owned and operated.

[Murica!]

For whatever reason, this thread reminds me of a classic Atlas post:

What is your stance on genocide? Do you favor or oppose it?

if it were put as a bill and if I were to vote on it, then I would not vote.

I would put forth to the senate a resolution to a bill that included this. One that permited  genocide in certain situations and not in others. But, I would not vote on a bill that either permitted genocide in all situations or one that did not permit genocide in all situations. I think that we need a compromise between those two.

lol

[Murica!]

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.

Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?

First paragraph is completely illegible. And yes they are(I'm part of the armed left), unless a serious danger i.e have a mental illness.

[Murica!]

Collectivization: The workers take over their workplaces and start managing them democratically.
Nationalization: the State takes ownership.
Both: The workers manage the State owns. Pretty much the SFRY.





Collectivization for me. Also please take this as being forced at the pain of death to choose.

Well… Obama did say,” I’m running short on time”. I am curious, are you posting from the White House or did you already move over to the Hillary for president campaign, so to make the transformation transition seamless?

As to your prop a position, are the collective still allowed gun ownership?

First paragraph is completely illegible. And yes they are(I'm part of the armed left), unless a serious danger i.e have a mental illness.

So, you have moved over to the Hillary campaign.

Murica!.exe has stopped working.
Please shut down and try again later.

[Murica!]

How about neither?

Why would you disagree with collectivization though? It gets rid of central authority and increases productivity, and is totally voluntary. Oh wait, you right libertarians are always willing to have freedom as long as it doesn't harm your corporate buddies.

[Murica!]

Where are you even getting this definition of "collectivization" from? I just Googled it and pretty much all of the results are related to collective farming or just collectivism in general.

Strange, I can't find anything on industrial collectivism either.

[Murica!]

(I'm part of the armed left)

His parents bought him a water pistol for his 12th birthday?

If by water pistol you mean a .22 yeah, though I bought it myself after I had turned 18 and moved out.

[Murica!]

(I'm part of the armed left)

His parents bought him a water pistol for his 12th birthday?

If by water pistol you mean a .22 yeah, though I bought it myself after I had turned 18 and moved out.

You must realise that I literally don't accept that you are older than 13-14.

I really don't care what you think my age is.

[Murica!]

(I'm part of the armed left)

His parents bought him a water pistol for his 12th birthday?

If by water pistol you mean a .22 yeah, though I bought it myself after I had turned 18 and moved out.

*Enter NSA*

It was nice knowing you.

What do you mean?

[Murica!]

Can we all get back on topic please?

[Murica!]

Can we all get back on topic please?

There was ever a topic here?

I have no idea at this point.