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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2015, 02:12:19 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo9VIPXpJGs

Just walk away Mittens.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2015, 02:19:06 AM »

He can expect a fairly predictable 6% loss to Clinton with North Carolina being the only state to flip.

His 47% will save him from a 6 point loss.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2015, 02:33:21 AM »

This makes me wonder, what happens if Romney, Bush and Christie all run for President?  Those are all "serious," "establishment," "moderate" candidates who can raise money and probably run a competent campaign. 

Could that be a reverse 2008 Republican primary scenario where the establishment field is so crowded that the right-wing candidate pulls it out?  Rand Paul and Ted Cruz come to mind as potential beneficiaries if the party elite can't circle the wagons and decide on a single candidate.

The problem is that the "right wing" field is even more crowded than the establishment field. This could seriously end up being a fifteen-way primary. Time to invest in popcorn.

Pop Secret or Orval Red...?
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2015, 06:25:48 AM »

Take the "almost" out.
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2015, 09:54:13 AM »

Haha, this is seriously amazing. This is going to be the best primary ever!

It's going to be hard to top the 2012 circus. Newt Gingrich was a contender at one point. That's embarrassing.
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2015, 10:08:15 AM »

Haha, this is seriously amazing. This is going to be the best primary ever!

It's going to be hard to top the 2012 circus. Newt Gingrich was a contender the clear frontrunner at one point. That's embarrassing.
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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2015, 02:14:48 PM »

I suppose going down as just a losing presidential candidate is not enough for him, and he would prefer to go down as a complete joke instead.

He has too many weaknesses to get past a non-clown car primary, much less win a general election.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2015, 02:16:43 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2015, 02:24:08 PM »

Haha, this is seriously amazing. This is going to be the best primary ever!

It's going to be hard to top the 2012 circus. Newt Gingrich was a contender at one point. That's embarrassing.
Well yeah watching the 2012 Presidential Republican Primary was like watching an SNL skit at times. 

I think what did Newt in was like Romney's performance in the debate in Florida. Romney basically eliminated Newt from being the Republican Presidential Candidate that night.
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2015, 03:30:04 PM »

Romney should grow a moustache since he's shaping up to be the second coming of Thomas Dewey.
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2015, 04:20:20 PM »

Unfortunately, Mitt and his campaign spokespersons are too gaffe prone.

Oh!
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2015, 04:47:25 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?
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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2015, 04:52:24 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?

Kasich, Walker, Pence, probably Jeb, maybe Paul.
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2015, 05:00:51 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?

Kasich, Walker, Pence, probably Jeb, maybe Paul.
Definitely not Pence.

Pence underperformed Romney by ten points in Indiana, showing that there's a significant chunk of the voters who would support Romney but not Pence.
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2015, 05:01:37 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?

He will get FEWER votes than in 2012. While he is the opposite of William Jennings Bryan, the result would be the same.

I actually think conservatives would stay home en mass.
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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2015, 05:03:00 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?

Kasich, Walker, Pence, probably Jeb, maybe Paul.
Definitely not Pence.

Pence underperformed Romney by ten points in Indiana, showing that there's a significant chunk of the voters who would support Romney but not Pence.
If Pence underperformed Romney by 10 points, we would have lost. I think you mean Romney's 10 point margin and Pence's 5 point margin.
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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2015, 05:04:00 PM »

Wait, the same Mitt Romney as the one who struggled to put away bottom of the barrel Republicans like Santorum and Gingrich and the pizza dude in 2012? That Mitt Romney? When there is a bunch of actual candidates this time?

That says more about the quality of the 2012 GOP primary electorate than it does about the quality of Romney as a candidate, imo.
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« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2015, 05:07:07 PM »

I think people are too dismissive of his chances. Sure, retreads haven't had the greatest success, but relative to what? Very few identifiable categories of candidates have had a high strike rate - it's really quite hard to become President. He's not the greatest candidate in the world, but who exactly is a clearly superior GOP candidate?

Kasich, Walker, Pence, probably Jeb, maybe Paul.
Definitely not Pence.

Pence underperformed Romney by ten points in Indiana, showing that there's a significant chunk of the voters who would support Romney but not Pence.
If Pence underperformed Romney by 10 points, we would have lost. I think you mean Romney's 10 point margin and Pence's 5 point margin.
Romney's 10.2 and Pence's 3.2.

I will amend my comment.

Pence underperformed Romney by seven points in Indiana.
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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2015, 05:35:17 PM »

This would be pretty amazing and hilarious.
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« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2015, 05:43:45 PM »

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/romney-face-tattoo-guy-says-hes-not-supporting-romney-in-201
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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2015, 06:19:35 PM »

I don't think he's running.
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« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2015, 05:23:45 AM »

This would be weird, it is the height of the election season, Ohio is ground zero, the Republicans have just re nominated Mitt Romney and he selects Ohio Senator Rob Portman has his vice presidential running mate. The Republicans leave Cleveland energized
A week later, the Democrats gather in Columbus to nominate Hillary Clinton,  and she selects as her choice to be the party's vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown.  Both campaigns are about to engage in a knockdown drag out brawl to secure the most electoral votes. That would be a strange scenario.
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« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2015, 07:06:35 AM »

Baffled.  One scenario I've heard is that this is setting up a kind of handoff.  Mitt gets his recent donor base revved up, then backs out himself and asks those donors to support Jeb Bush, and it all puts Christie in a jam in terms of being able to raise cash from the establishment.  But that sounds to me more implausible that Romney just running again himself, since Bush won't have difficulty raising establishment money and the Romney backers would probably feel like they just got jerked around with such a handoff move.  Just really weird.  On the other hand, never underestimate presidential ambition; it will get people charging like Charlie Brown toward that football every time.
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« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2015, 09:01:23 AM »

It's also worth remembering the strength of the epistemic bubbles that surround Presidential candidates. If 2012 taught us nothing else, it's that Romney and his associates - who apparently believed through election day that his victory was all but assured - are surrounded by an especially strong bubble. (Maybe he's reading the Atlas? The reaction among conservatives here seems to have been more positive than the reaction among conservatives elsewhere, which might tell us something interesting.)
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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2015, 06:30:32 PM »

It's also worth remembering the strength of the epistemic bubbles that surround Presidential candidates. If 2012 taught us nothing else, it's that Romney and his associates - who apparently believed through election day that his victory was all but assured - are surrounded by an especially strong bubble. (Maybe he's reading the Atlas?The reaction among conservatives here seems to have been more positive than the reaction among conservatives elsewhere, which might tell us something interesting.)

Wealthy conservatives like Romney.
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