Question: Would you call a same-sex civil union law ...

[Tender Branson]

Because this is what's most likely happening here in the next years.

Just today, the Constitutional Court ruled that same-sex couples must be given full adoption rights, not only stepchild adoption.

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http://www.thelocal.at/20150114/austria-lifts-ban-on-same-sex-adoption

This means we are now one step further than Germany when it comes to same-sex marriage and adotion, because Germany only allows stepchild adoption so far.

And while we only have civil unions here that are different (or discriminating) relative to the hetero marriage law in ca. 30 points, the gay rights activists have sat together with the SPÖVP government and asked them to streamline the civil union law with the hetero law over the next years.

So, eventually the civil union law probably offers all the same rights and duties as the hetero law, just that it's still called "civil union" and not "marriage".

If all the rights and duties are the same though, incl. adoption and fertilisation - would you accept the civil union law to be in effect "marriage", or not ?

What do you think ?

(PS: Of couse, the Austrian Constitutional Court has turned out to be very progressive anyway on these issues recently, so they might as well get a gay marriage case soon and rule that the government must introduce it, because it's otherwise discriminating).

[Tender Branson]

BTW:

The FPÖ has called the ruling a "dark day for the children".

The Team Stronach says the ruling is "uncomfortable".

The ÖVP "accepts it".

The SPÖ "welcomes" the ruling.

The Greens and NEOS call it "awesome" and urge the government to fully implement marriage equality now.

[Franzl]

No. There's no reason to have "seperate but equal".

[Tender Branson]

The new situation in Europe:



Purple countries: SSM possible
Purple dots: full SS-adoption rights
Yellow countries: some form of civil union/civil partnership
Green dots: Only stepchild adoption for SS-partners

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

your map is wrong, Northern Ireland has no gay marriage.

[Modernity has failed us]

No, because accommodating homophobes in any way, shape, or form is not okay with me.

[politicus]

your map is wrong, Northern Ireland has no gay marriage.

and Estonia has stepchild adoption.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

The doctrine of separate but equal has no place.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The new situation in Europe:



Purple countries: SSM possible
Purple dots: full SS-adoption rights
Yellow countries: some form of civil union/civil partnership
Green dots: Only stepchild adoption for SS-partners

Italy really stands out.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

No.  I do not approve of appeasing the homophobes.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

your map is wrong, Northern Ireland has no gay marriage.

and Estonia has stepchild adoption.

The lack of facts is humorous.  Trollololol

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Italy really stands out.

supposedly a civil union vote will be brought to Parliament in Jan 2015.

Also watch out for in 2015: Greece (if Syriza win) and Ireland (referendum on SSM).

[Tender Branson]

Italy really stands out.

supposedly a civil union vote will be brought to Parliament in Jan 2015.

Also watch out for in 2015: Greece (if Syriza win) and Ireland (referendum on SSM).

Yeah, the first thing SYRIZA should definitely do in a country with 25% unemployed is to organize a gay marriage referendum ...

[politicus]

Italy really stands out.

supposedly a civil union vote will be brought to Parliament in Jan 2015.

Also watch out for in 2015: Greece (if Syriza win) and Ireland (referendum on SSM).

Yeah, the first thing SYRIZA should definitely do in a country with 25% unemployed is to organize a gay marriage referendum ...

There would be no need to hold a referendum.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

No, but I would support such a law.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Italy really stands out.

supposedly a civil union vote will be brought to Parliament in Jan 2015.

Also watch out for in 2015: Greece (if Syriza win) and Ireland (referendum on SSM).

Yeah, the first thing SYRIZA should definitely do in a country with 25% unemployed is to organize a gay marriage referendum ...

a) as politicus has said, no need for a referndum.

b) Tspiras is very much a child of the "New Left". He has lots of interviews floating round promising to do it (and if worst comes to the worst and money runs out, it may be one of the only things he can do).

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, it's not marriage, nor is it acceptable.