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Question: "same sex marriage", if there are no legal differences whatsoever compared with hetero marriage - except the fact that the civil union is not called "marriage" ?
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


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E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« on: January 14, 2015, 10:25:31 AM »

Because this is what's most likely happening here in the next years.

Just today, the Constitutional Court ruled that same-sex couples must be given full adoption rights, not only stepchild adoption.

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http://www.thelocal.at/20150114/austria-lifts-ban-on-same-sex-adoption

This means we are now one step further than Germany when it comes to same-sex marriage and adotion, because Germany only allows stepchild adoption so far.

And while we only have civil unions here that are different (or discriminating) relative to the hetero marriage law in ca. 30 points, the gay rights activists have sat together with the SPÖVP government and asked them to streamline the civil union law with the hetero law over the next years.

So, eventually the civil union law probably offers all the same rights and duties as the hetero law, just that it's still called "civil union" and not "marriage".

If all the rights and duties are the same though, incl. adoption and fertilisation - would you accept the civil union law to be in effect "marriage", or not ?

What do you think ?


(PS: Of couse, the Austrian Constitutional Court has turned out to be very progressive anyway on these issues recently, so they might as well get a gay marriage case soon and rule that the government must introduce it, because it's otherwise discriminating).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 10:35:50 AM »

BTW:

The FPÖ has called the ruling a "dark day for the children".

The Team Stronach says the ruling is "uncomfortable".

The ÖVP "accepts it".

The SPÖ "welcomes" the ruling.

The Greens and NEOS call it "awesome" and urge the government to fully implement marriage equality now.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 10:40:15 AM »

The new situation in Europe:



Purple countries: SSM possible
Purple dots: full SS-adoption rights
Yellow countries: some form of civil union/civil partnership
Green dots: Only stepchild adoption for SS-partners
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 02:38:50 PM »


supposedly a civil union vote will be brought to Parliament in Jan 2015.

Also watch out for in 2015: Greece (if Syriza win) and Ireland (referendum on SSM).

Yeah, the first thing SYRIZA should definitely do in a country with 25% unemployed is to organize a gay marriage referendum ... Roll Eyes
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