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« on: January 14, 2015, 03:41:49 PM »

With the power of hindsight.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:35 PM »

Why was he banned?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 03:43:21 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2015, 03:44:57 PM by Lief »

Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 03:49:42 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 03:50:51 PM »

Libertas is doing hell of a job giving more ammunitions to opponents of his unbanning.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 03:51:01 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 03:51:28 PM »

Unbanning is always the correct decision unless the poster is Rochambeau
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2015, 03:59:08 PM »

Inb4 BRTD begs for the same to be done for his savior
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2015, 04:08:06 PM »

Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I think the hope is that if they repeat the lies often enough all over the forum, the moderators/Nym will assume it must be true and reban me.

Anyone who looks through my actual posting history will find I've mostly just been active in Atlasia as a member of the Northeast Assembly, provided some analyses of some elections (including detailed analysis of the special election for Congress going on in my own district), shared links to a whole bunch of county maps I've made, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2015, 04:09:34 PM »

Yes. If you don't like his posts or him expressing himself, don't read it. I've come to see that there is a group of people who would love to see the place as drab and lifeless as they evidently are, and I'm not among them.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2015, 04:15:02 PM »

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

Snowstalker would prefer that all gay men posting in that thread adorn full burka before taking photos of themselves.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2015, 04:18:46 PM »

Probably.  I don't know why he was banned and I haven't seen anything from him ban-worthy.
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 04:41:27 PM »

Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2015, 04:44:28 PM »

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

Snowstalker would prefer that all gay men posting in that thread adorn full burka before taking photos of themselves.

Or maybe Putin is rubbing off on him more than we thought. Would PAPOY qualify under the homosexual propaganda law?
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2015, 04:54:23 PM »

Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.

Defending myself against lies is "belligerent"? There are certain posters who are going around claiming that I am posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, i.e. lying. Like Snowstalker claiming I engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" on the PAPOY thread. Can you tell me what was "obnoxiously slutty" about my post in PAPOY?

If I remain silent, then mods/admins will keep running across these lies and assume they are true. Would you like it if certain people who just disliked you went all over the forum saying "Kalwejt has been posting pornography all over the forum! Ban him!" Why don't you tell the people who just dislike me and are determined to fabricate any reason to ban me to just stop telling lies about me. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2015, 05:17:16 PM »

Yeah, it was. Originally I found him off-putting and I kind of still do but overall I really don't think he's that bad a guy and in some ways he's actually pretty interesting.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2015, 05:40:21 PM »

Yes, unbanning is almost always the correct decision.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2015, 05:49:34 PM »

Undecided, and I don't care anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2015, 05:50:55 PM »

Absolutely. The prudes are just jealous that their lives aren't as interesting.
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2015, 05:53:59 PM »

I don't much like Libertas, but yes. Hopefully more unbannings will follow.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2015, 05:55:56 PM »

Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.

Defending myself against lies is "belligerent"? There are certain posters who are going around claiming that I am posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, i.e. lying. Like Snowstalker claiming I engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" on the PAPOY thread. Can you tell me what was "obnoxiously slutty" about my post in PAPOY?

If I remain silent, then mods/admins will keep running across these lies and assume they are true. Would you like it if certain people who just disliked you went all over the forum saying "Kalwejt has been posting pornography all over the forum! Ban him!" Why don't you tell the people who just dislike me and are determined to fabricate any reason to ban me to just stop telling lies about me. 

Unfortunately, you are not going to keep certain types from beating this thing like a proverbial dead horse. By reacting every time, you're only going to help to escalate the whole thing. They're baiting you and you're giving them exactly what the want. Eventually, the whole thing will dissipate, just don't help them keep it alive.

Also, I quite sure Nym or Dave wouldn't ban anybody because of some hearsay.
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2015, 06:10:22 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2015, 06:12:34 PM by Senator Polnut »

I think Libertas will be fine as long as he doesn't keep acting like the victim of some organised witchhunt. Because... I know of no such hunt. He's clearly trying to taunt people into reacting to him, to enable him to play the victim and the usual suspects have lined up to defend him.

Just think a bit more before you post and maybe people wouldn't think you weren't just an attention-seeking troll, albeit more tolerable to the "OMG you guyz are mean!" brigade, because of your new political affiliations.

I was dead against his returning, especially considering the "look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee" behaviour he immediately got into... but you know what? Let him go. Nobody bite, just let him be.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2015, 06:26:00 PM »

I think Libertas will be fine as long as he doesn't keep acting like the victim of some organised witchhunt. Because... I know of no such hunt. He's clearly trying to taunt people into reacting to him, to enable him to play the victim and the usual suspects have lined up to defend him.
That doesn't sound like Libertas to me. That sounds like the Pruders.
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2015, 06:26:53 PM »

Libertas would be fine if he just chilled out and took Bacon King's advice. 

Not even asking ya to listen to anyone else here, but my god you have to at least realize that BK has your best interests at heart, as well as the power (in his case justly) to wield the Mod stick when necessary.

Sometimes discretion really is is the better part of valor.

(Of course, doing so would deprive us of yet another dumb "fun freedom-lovers vs. the PROOD BRUDE" clash, but that would be for the best as this so-called "prude brood" is not a thing that actually exists except in the fevered imaginations of its self-proclaimed opponents.)
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2015, 06:28:50 PM »

I'm not aware of any misconduct after his unbanning, so yes.
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