Was unbanning Libertas the correct decision?

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Libertas is doing hell of a job giving more ammunitions to opponents of his unbanning.

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Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.

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Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.

Defending myself against lies is "belligerent"? There are certain posters who are going around claiming that I am posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, i.e. lying. Like Snowstalker claiming I engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" on the PAPOY thread. Can you tell me what was "obnoxiously slutty" about my post in PAPOY?

If I remain silent, then mods/admins will keep running across these lies and assume they are true. Would you like it if certain people who just disliked you went all over the forum saying "Kalwejt has been posting pornography all over the forum! Ban him!" Why don't you tell the people who just dislike me and are determined to fabricate any reason to ban me to just stop telling lies about me. 

Unfortunately, you are not going to keep certain types from beating this thing like a proverbial dead horse. By reacting every time, you're only going to help to escalate the whole thing. They're baiting you and you're giving them exactly what the want. Eventually, the whole thing will dissipate, just don't help them keep it alive.

Also, I quite sure Nym or Dave wouldn't ban anybody because of some hearsay.

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Yeah sure, why not? If you don't like his posts put him on ignore. Not that difficult.

I find the organized hate campaign against him because of like two posts he made much more offensive than anything he's done since his unbanning.

Yeah Bacon King said he was deleting all the posts I've made containing any references to sexual content on-sight... and he confirmed to me the only thing he deleted was that one story, which was intended to be a humorous anecdote and nothing more, and which I had already stated would be the last story I would share on Atlas Forum to avoid further unexpected controversy.

However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

I don't think that's the real problem here. The problem is that you seem to retain your previous unnecessary belligerent attitude, overreacting to every little thing and creating more. The whole controversy would've be gone already had you simply ignored people bitching just for the bitching's sake.

Defending myself against lies is "belligerent"? There are certain posters who are going around claiming that I am posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, i.e. lying. Like Snowstalker claiming I engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" on the PAPOY thread. Can you tell me what was "obnoxiously slutty" about my post in PAPOY?

If I remain silent, then mods/admins will keep running across these lies and assume they are true. Would you like it if certain people who just disliked you went all over the forum saying "Kalwejt has been posting pornography all over the forum! Ban him!" Why don't you tell the people who just dislike me and are determined to fabricate any reason to ban me to just stop telling lies about me. 

Unfortunately, you are not going to keep certain types from beating this thing like a proverbial dead horse. By reacting every time, you're only going to help to escalate the whole thing. They're baiting you and you're giving them exactly what the want. Eventually, the whole thing will dissipate, just don't help them keep it alive.

Also, I quite sure Nym or Dave wouldn't ban anybody because of some hearsay.

Well threads like this are not very helpful to that cause. I can't stop people like Snowstalker and Oakvale from making threads and posts about me in the hopes of getting me banned. The people who hate me and were gnashing their teeth at my unbanning were going to find some reason to attack, in this case they've decided to latch onto this notion that I'm a sexual "degenerate" guilty of posting "explicit sexual content" all over this "family friendly" forum, which is complete nonsense.

And it's offensive nonsense since many people will believe these claims when they come from long-time, popular, "respectable" posters like Oakvale- who used to be my friend when I was an actual HP but now obsessively wants me banned.

According to the current poll 46.7% of the forum believe I am guilty of bannable offenses in the less than 2 weeks that I've been back on the forum, which is absurd from any sort of objective POV. If 46.7% just don't like me, fine, but to say I have committed ban-worthy offenses is just hackishness.

Meanwhile I've heard from people who hated old Libertas, were initially against my unbanning, but have since PMed me to say they've changed their minds acknowledge that I've proven that I've changed for the better. If only all Atlasians were so objective and willing to let old grudges go.

I agree with Polnut that there's no organized witchhunt here. At most there are two or three people who loves to exxadurate. The whole thing was blown out of proportions and that can be annoying, but you should be above that.

I'm not saying this to attack you, since I was one of those supporting your return from the beggining. But some of your actions, such as making that Lief v. Oakvale poll, was quite unhelpful.

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However certain people will keep repeating lies that I'm posting "sexually explicit" content all over the forum, like Snowstalker claiming that I've engaged in "obnoxiously slutty behavior" in the PAPOY thread, here is my "obnoxiously slutty" contribution to the PAPOY thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205070.msg4445097#msg4445097

Snowstalker would prefer that all gay men posting in that thread adorn full burka before taking photos of themselves.

The only thing notable about those pics of Libertas is that he's kind of posing like girls often do in selfies.  I'm irritated that Snow would call that "slutty". 

Has your leftism been relegated to economic matters, dude?

I certainly didn't intentionally strike a "girly" pose in my selfies, I just liked those poses. But if my poses do in fact resemble the way girls often pose in selfies, and Snowstalker considers my pics to be "obnoxiously slutty", then all I can say is wow, that's pretty awful and misogynistic.

There seems to be a subtle yet consistent anti-LGBTQ strain running through most of the criticism of me.

Now my selfies aren't manly enough, instead of looking like a manly man, I look like some "obnoxiously slutty" girl.

Nobody takes Snowstalker's babbling seriously. You shouldn't as well.

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The longer this argument goes on the more inclined I am to take Libertas's side. At this point it's difficult for me not to think he's being held to a different standard than somebody straighter or more conventionally masculine would be.

Y'know... you're probably right.

However, the fact remains that Libertas would be better received if he calmed down and dropped the persecution complex.  There isn't a shadowy cabal of posters who are conspiring to ban anything and everything they disagree with, that's just silly.  And said nonexistent cabal certainly doesn't lurk behind any and every attempt at constructive criticism.

"But Oakvale and Gully..."

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I'm increasingly disliking both sides of this

Also windjammer Wtf please don't repost my old tmi posts

I take Windjammer is the newest addition to The List?

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Proposal: everybody just f**kin abandon this thread and move on.