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« on: January 15, 2015, 12:04:08 AM »

Alison Lundergan GrimesJack Conway
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2015, 12:08:10 AM »

None. Adam Edelen is probably a better candidate than either one. But either way, I don't think Kentucky has a good Senate bench. Maybe Andy Beshear some time down the road when a seat opens up, but for it looks grim.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 12:11:17 AM »

Conway / Conway
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2015, 12:18:10 AM »

What would a county map look like?
Where would be either's stronghold?
I guess both would heavily campaign in Eastern Kentucky.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 12:20:16 AM »

Well considering Conway has been in this race for awhile now, he has over $1M to spend and he also has the establishment support. I'm inclined to say he would win.

Who I would vote for? Conway. As far as last year is concerned, while Conway was standing up for equality and gay rights, Grimes was busy running a campaign against Obama and liberals everywhere.

I doubt Grimes runs though. Maybe in 2016 for Senate if Edelen doesn't run, but she's taking this year off.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 12:29:22 AM »

Who would she choose as her running mate?
Conway's is Sanny Overly, the Democratic caucus chair in the Kentucky House of Representatives.
Maybe Grimes chooses Rocky Adkins, the Majority Leader of the House. That would be an interesting match-up, Majority Floor Leader vs. Majority Caucus Chair.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 12:30:18 AM »

Well considering Conway has been in this race for awhile now, he has over $1M to spend and he also has the establishment support. I'm inclined to say he would win.

Who I would vote for? Conway. As far as last year is concerned, while Conway was standing up for equality and gay rights, Grimes was busy running a campaign against Obama and liberals everywhere.

I doubt Grimes runs though. Maybe in 2016 for Senate if Edelen doesn't run, but she's taking this year off.

Just as a general note, keep in mind that Grimes wouldn't have done any better if she ran on obama's ideas/what he did/will do as president/<insert social issue here>. Heck, she might have done slightly worse. That being said, her refusing to say if she voted for Obama probably did knock her down a point or two.



Anyways, Conway/Conway.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 12:52:41 AM »

Voted Conway/Conway

Grimes was clearly way overrated as a candidate, and I like Conway, he takes some courageous liberal stands in conservative Kentucky.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 10:49:29 AM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2015, 11:05:42 AM »

Conway/Conway
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2015, 11:27:09 AM »

Probably Grimes/Conway. I feel Conway is a better candidate for Senate and Grimes for Governor. Grimes seems like the type of candidate more comfortable in a less partisan race, while Conway has ideas that should be elevated to the national level.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 01:11:23 PM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.

Conway performed considerably better in 2010 than Grimes in 2014.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 01:28:25 PM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.

Conway performed considerably better in 2010 than Grimes in 2014.

56-44 vs. 56-41. I wouldn't really call that "considerably better". Besides, Kentucky was more friendly to Democrats in 2010 than in 2014.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 01:44:34 PM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.

Conway performed considerably better in 2010 than Grimes in 2014.

56-44 vs. 56-41. I wouldn't really call that "considerably better". Besides, Kentucky was more friendly to Democrats in 2010 than in 2014.

McConnell was considered much more vulnerable in 2014, with his approval and favorability ratings in Kentucky in the toilet, while Grimes was considered a much stronger candidate than Conway with family ties to the state and she ran as an anti-Obama conservative.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2015, 02:01:05 PM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.

Conway performed considerably better in 2010 than Grimes in 2014.

56-44 vs. 56-41. I wouldn't really call that "considerably better". Besides, Kentucky was more friendly to Democrats in 2010 than in 2014.

McConnell was considered much more vulnerable in 2014, with his approval and favorability ratings in Kentucky in the toilet, while Grimes was considered a much stronger candidate than Conway with family ties to the state and she ran as an anti-Obama conservative.

That's true. Accounting for all the factors, Grimes' loss was worse, but I don't see it as that big of a difference.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2015, 02:07:02 PM »

Conway since his embarrassing blowout loss is further in the rearview mirror.

Conway performed considerably better in 2010 than Grimes in 2014.

Conway also ran in an open seat.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2015, 02:43:03 PM »

Two thing to remember:

1. Gubernatorial elections tends to have diffrent dynamics than congressional races
2. Kentucky holds its election in off-year, making it less likely to be influenced by any nationwide waves
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2015, 04:40:45 PM »

Conway all the way, she won't get my support after failing to recognized that she voted for Obama.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2015, 05:18:46 PM »

Two thing to remember:

1. Gubernatorial elections tends to have diffrent dynamics than congressional races
2. Kentucky holds its election in off-year, making it less likely to be influenced by any nationwide waves

Exactly!
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2015, 05:33:37 PM »

Two thing to remember:

1. Gubernatorial elections tends to have diffrent dynamics than congressional races
2. Kentucky holds its election in off-year, making it less likely to be influenced by any nationwide waves

Sure, I get that. But Gubernatorial races (even in 2015) tend to send a similar, if less invasive than a Senate race, spotlight on than someone who has run in off years in offices like Attorney General. The Senate race put a spotlight on Conway and Grimes and they both shriveled under the pressure. He won't get a pass like he did running for Attorney General when Steve Beshear won re-election by 20 points. He'll be the face of the Democratic Party, and I sincerely doubt he's up to it.

Again, I'm not 100% sure Conway loses though - the Kentucky Democratic Party is still a very powerful organization, and looks like a last man standing when Democratic Parties in the South and Appalachia are falling down left and right. I think they may be able to push through Conway ANYWAY, and surely there is always a chance the Republican candidate turns out to be too much for the electorate. But I think Conway has to learn from his lessons in the Senate race that you can't just not take a position on the issues.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2015, 05:44:20 PM »

Kentucky has a recent history of Democratic governors. The only Republican governor in my lifetime is the one-termer Ernie Fletcher. We don't want a repeat of that.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2015, 06:02:35 PM »

Sabato Crystal Ball has it Lean G O P anyways and the G O P will do well in the 2015 gubernatorial campaigns.

We should nominate Conway, who doesn't have flaws as a candidate, coming off the hills of 2014 debacle.
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2015, 07:02:53 PM »

What would a county map between them both look like?
Who would win which congressional district?

I guess the 4th and the 5th district would go for Grimes, the 3rd and 6th would go for Conway.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2015, 08:06:34 PM »

I don't see Grimes recovering from last year's blowout so quickly. She was really disappointing as a candidate, so I'd say Conway/Conway.
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