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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 01:54:04 PM »

I object, I guess

Windjammer, you said yourself you thought the Vice President needed new fields of work. As such, until these new fields are found and discussed and approved, I guess it would be wiser if did not "meddle" the Vice President into obligations and work that would fall under his former role, because his current role is obviously nothing.


Because the senators didn't want to give him anything.

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 03:00:00 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2015, 03:44:17 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2015, 04:05:39 PM »

The Vice President is the president of the senate. If he doesn't risk automatic impeachment, he will  never become active.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2015, 12:48:59 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2015, 03:00:54 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2015, 03:06:45 PM »

Aye Think so
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2015, 03:24:12 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2015, 04:20:13 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2015, 07:29:27 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2015, 07:49:27 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2015, 10:57:02 AM »

This has enough votes to pass, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2015, 10:59:11 AM »

Changing my vote to Aye
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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2015, 03:54:46 PM »

By a vote of 6-3-1 windjammer's amendment has been adopted

Aye: Cris, TNF, SWE, Lief, Yankee, Windjammer

Nay: Polnut, Bacon King, Cranberry

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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2015, 04:01:34 PM »

I motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2015, 08:39:01 AM »

Just one minute to wait please, will you?

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I don't like the automatic part, hence I'd propose to strike it.


By the way, odd party line voting on the amendment before - TPP against everyone else Tongue
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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2015, 01:58:52 PM »

Senators have 36 hours to object to cranberries amendment
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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2015, 02:48:03 PM »

I object. What's the point of this if it's not automatic?
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« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2015, 02:56:36 PM »

I object. What's the point of this if it's not automatic?
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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2015, 05:18:56 AM »


Well, the point is that it would be more or less in our power to bring up the articles of impeachment, which we do now too, of course. In other words, we have no possibility to bring these articles automatically, there will always be a Senator/a person who has to introduce them, hence, I see no point in the word automatically.
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« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2015, 07:17:00 AM »

Senators, a vote is now open on cranberries amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2015, 07:33:57 AM »


Well, the point is that it would be more or less in our power to bring up the articles of impeachment, which we do now too, of course. In other words, we have no possibility to bring these articles automatically, there will always be a Senator/a person who has to introduce them, hence, I see no point in the word automatically.
I don't see the interest, sorry. At least, an automatic article of impeachment can be introduced by anyone, that's better than letting the senators the only control of that.

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« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2015, 10:56:42 AM »

AYE


Well, the point is that it would be more or less in our power to bring up the articles of impeachment, which we do now too, of course. In other words, we have no possibility to bring these articles automatically, there will always be a Senator/a person who has to introduce them, hence, I see no point in the word automatically.

I don't see the interest, sorry. At least, an automatic article of impeachment can be introduced by anyone, that's better than letting the senators the only control of that.

Technically no, as just Senators are allowed to post in the Legislative Introduction Thread. If it were you, not even the President. Wink
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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2015, 11:25:25 AM »

AYE


Well, the point is that it would be more or less in our power to bring up the articles of impeachment, which we do now too, of course. In other words, we have no possibility to bring these articles automatically, there will always be a Senator/a person who has to introduce them, hence, I see no point in the word automatically.

I don't see the interest, sorry. At least, an automatic article of impeachment can be introduced by anyone, that's better than letting the senators the only control of that.

Technically no, as just Senators are allowed to post in the Legislative Introduction Thread. If it were you, not even the President. Wink



This is a special case the automatic article of impeachment,
Just to be sure that inactive senators are indeed "prosecuted". The senate failed to expel one of his inactive senators recently (Bacon King), that is a good argument to make sure that this is still "automatic".

Do you imagine if we have had 10 senators inactive for instance?
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« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2015, 11:45:49 AM »

AYE


Well, the point is that it would be more or less in our power to bring up the articles of impeachment, which we do now too, of course. In other words, we have no possibility to bring these articles automatically, there will always be a Senator/a person who has to introduce them, hence, I see no point in the word automatically.

I don't see the interest, sorry. At least, an automatic article of impeachment can be introduced by anyone, that's better than letting the senators the only control of that.

Technically no, as just Senators are allowed to post in the Legislative Introduction Thread. If it were you, not even the President. Wink



This is a special case the automatic article of impeachment,
Just to be sure that inactive senators are indeed "prosecuted". The senate failed to expel one of his inactive senators recently (Bacon King), that is a good argument to make sure that this is still "automatic".

Do you imagine if we have had 10 senators inactive for instance?


But how do you present the impeachment automatically? Unless you have a machine to do so, you will always need someone to do it, and just Senators are allowed to post in the Legislative Introduction Thread. You see, there is no way for us to enforce the "automatically" part, so we might just as well scrap it.
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