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Former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
 
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Former U.S. Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA)
 
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« on: January 18, 2015, 02:44:09 PM »

A classic, working-class, populist election. Who wins? Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015, 02:56:49 PM »

Unfortunately, probably huckabee.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 03:07:01 PM »

I'd vote for Huckabee, but pretty generic map. If you want to make a tie, add WI to Huck's column, but even giving him Ohio is generous. Webb really blocks a Southern Republican's path through VA.



Webb: 279; Huck: 259
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 03:17:18 PM »

I'd vote for Huckabee, but pretty generic map. If you want to make a tie, add WI to Huck's column, but even giving him Ohio is generous. Webb really blocks a Southern Republican's path through VA.

Webb: 279; Huck: 259

I agree, although I think that Ohio will go for Webb. African-American turnout will be very high in Ohio and Webb will do better than Obama with working-class whites.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 03:54:33 PM »

A Republican whose politics are motivated by an Evangelical Christian's latent resentment of the secular elements of American culture, versus a Democrat whose politics are motivated by a Southern White man's latent resentment of those who do not conform to the genetics and culture of the Ulster Scots.

Either way, we're f#$@ed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 03:59:16 PM »

I'd guess Jim Webb but it could go either way.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 12:35:51 AM »

Webb probably wins big.

He has Huck's message, with the votes of traditional Democratic constituencies. A difference is that he also served in the armed forces, and doesn't have a reputation for taking extreme social conservative positions, or for thinking that people who disagree with him religiously are going to hell.

I'd see this as a repeat of the 2008 map (except with Nebraska's most liberal district being slightly more conservative.)



Webb/ McCaskill- 358 Electoral Votes
Huckabee/ Rubio- 180 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 11:23:33 AM »

Webb might do very well in Appalachia.

Normally Webb would be a turnoff in places like VT, WA, MN and OR. But against Huckster, hed win easily
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 12:35:01 PM »

I would say Huckabee narrowly by virtue of taking Florida.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 02:14:56 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2015, 02:59:19 PM by pbrower2a »

Webb probably wins big.

He has Huck's message, with the votes of traditional Democratic constituencies. A difference is that he also served in the armed forces, and doesn't have a reputation for taking extreme social conservative positions, or for thinking that people who disagree with him religiously are going to hell.

I'd see this as a repeat of the 2008 map (except with Nebraska's most liberal district being slightly more conservative.)

Huckabee ticks off the Hispanic vote in Arizona with his believe-it-or-burn Protestantism and maybe the Lutherans of the Dakotas, and loses two of three districts of Nebraska.  In view of the trouble within the Kansas GOP I can imagine Kansas voters turning against Huckabee if they can make no other statement. Rubio is about as poor a VP nominee as there is, and he can't win Florida.

It's a coast-to-coast disaster for Republican because the First Congressional District of Nebraska borders Iowa and Kansas.



Webb/ McCaskill- 383 Electoral Votes
Huckabee/ Rubio- 155 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 02:32:15 PM »

Obama voters who switch to Huckabee will be negligible, but there could be quite a turnout dropoff for an uninspiring white guy. However, Huckabee could very well energize them to vote against him due to some of his insane statements. Webb could potentially eat into some of Huckabee's base and gain a small amount of Romney voters, but it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate the turnout dropoff in most states or vastly alter the electoral map.



Webb - 279
Huckabee - 259
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 02:43:22 PM »

I'd vote for Huckabee, but pretty generic map. If you want to make a tie, add WI to Huck's column, but even giving him Ohio is generous. Webb really blocks a Southern Republican's path through VA.



Webb: 279; Huck: 259

I didn't even look at this before making mine. Tongue Great minds think alike! OH was a difficult choice for me as well.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 03:08:37 PM »

A Republican whose politics are motivated by an Evangelical Christian's latent resentment of the secular elements of American culture, versus a Democrat whose politics are motivated by a Southern White man's latent resentment of those who do not conform to the genetics and culture of the Ulster Scots.

Either way, we're f#$@ed.
If you think that Jim Webb is a bigot, then I feel really, really sorry for you.

And please, don't even try and claim you didn't insinuate that.  

Yes, this is a total mischaracterization of Jim Webb.  Remember, the only reason he won was by exposing his opponent's bigotry.  Also, if Democrats ever want serious progress on the economic left, they need to find a way to unite Appalachia with urban minorities.  With many people whose parents were born after 1965 now eligible to vote, this just might be possible.

But back on topic: I think Webb wins with about 300 EV and low turnout.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2015, 04:09:21 PM »

I would say Huckabee narrowly by virtue of taking Florida.

Huckabee would never win Florida outside of a Republican primary.
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