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« on: March 31, 2015, 10:02:50 PM »

Rank the following 12 scandals together in one ranking, from most serious to least serious.  Note, I don't mean worst in their political consequences, rather I mean serious in terms being morally blameworthy and harmful:

Bush Scandals:
US Attorney Scandal
Lying/Sexing up of intelligence in run up to the Iraq War
Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
Ignoring of terrorism/Bin Laden issues pre-9.11
Plame Affair
Hurricane Katrina response

Obama Scandals:
Benghazi
Fast and Furious
IRS investigation of conservative groups
VA Hospital backlog Scandal
Healthcare.gov roll out fiasco
DOJ investigation of AP reporters
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 10:51:02 PM »

No WMDs?
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 11:01:15 PM »

That's on the list, "Lying/Sexing up of intelligence in run up to the Iraq War."
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 11:31:33 PM »

1.  Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
2.  Lying/sexing up of intelligence in run up to Iraq War
3.  Ignoring of terrorism/Bin Laden issues pre-9.11
4.  Hurricane Katrina response
5.  US Attorney Scandal
6.  Plame Affair
7.  VA Hospital backlog Scandal
8.  Healthcare.gov roll out fiasco
9.  Benghazi (Not really a scandal)
9.  DOJ investigation of AP reporters (Not really a scandal)
9.  IRS investigation of conservative groups (Not really a scandal)
9.  Fast and Furious  (Not really a scandal)
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 11:44:03 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2015, 11:50:38 PM by L.D. Smith, Knight of Appalachia »

Is Plame the Scooter Libby thing?

And what about forcing the EPA to deny global warming?

Otherwise:

1. Lying/sexing up intel leading to Iraq
2. Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
3. Ignoring terrorism/bin Laden
3. Hurricane Katrina
5. US Attorney scandal
6. VA Hospital backlog
7. Plame Affair (for now)
8. Benghazi
9. The rest of the so-called "scandals" thrown at Obama.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 11:48:06 PM »

1. Ignoring of terrorism/Bin Laden issues pre-9.11
2. Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
3. Lying/Sexing up of intelligence in run up to the Iraq War
4. Hurricane Katrina response
5. Plame Affair
6. US Attorney Scandal
7. Healthcare.gov roll out fiasco
8. VA Hospital backlog Scandal
9. Benghazi
10. Fast and Furious
11. DOJ investigation of AP reporters
12. IRS investigation of conservative groups
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 09:27:12 AM »

1. lying/sexing up of intelligence in run up to Iraq War
2. Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
3. IRS investigation of conservative groups
4. DOJ investigation of AP reporters
5. VA Hospital backlog scandal
6. Fast and Furious
7. Plame affair
8. US Attorney Scandal
9. Hurrican Katrina response
10. Benghazi
11. Healthcare.gov roll out fiasco
12. Ignoring of terrorism/Bin Laden issues pre-9.11

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I beg to differ.  That list is egregious. 

First off, to think Benghazi was a bigger failure than 9/11, I can't imagine.  That's crazy, absolutely crazy.  I know that's common among Republicans because they're paranoid and need to believe Benghazi is a thing.  But, still.

IRS scandal?  Turned out not to be a scandal!  How can a scandal that turned out to be nothing be worse than the 9/11 intelligence failure or FEMA's failure during Katrina. 

Or what about the US Attorney scandal?  The Bush administration fired US attorneys because they didn't pursue trumped up political charges against democrats and like 15 people resigned including the AG.  How is that less of a scandal than Fast and Furious or the DOJ investigation of reporters?

I can only conclude this is a list produced by someone who has no idea what happened under George W. Bush. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 09:41:43 AM »
« Edited: April 01, 2015, 10:06:46 AM by CrabCake »

The Bush scandals seem the most consequential. The FEMA underfunding, the Iraq War clustef*** and its consequences (including the numerous scandals of the now bloated VA department under both Bush and Obama; as well as Rumsfeld getting troops spiv armour, the military running riot (Abu Gharib etc.), literally losing billions of dollars and Bremer's hideously incompetent administration of the country) etc. all had very intense and disastrous impacts on real people and American global influence.

Remember being 'objective' isn't arbitrarily claiming both sides are equally bad. And while I certainly don't think obama's scandals are to be sniffed at (aside from Benghazi and the IRS 'scandals' of course) - F&F was hideous stupidity by the DoJ for example ; I don't think it's possible to look at the evidence and claim that the Bush administration was anything less than inordinately more corrupt and chaotic than Obama's.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 02:16:19 PM »

1. lying/sexing up of intelligence in run up to Iraq War
2. Botched military strategy and reconstruction in Iraq
3. IRS investigation of conservative groups
4. DOJ investigation of AP reporters
5. VA Hospital backlog scandal
6. Fast and Furious
7. Plame affair
8. US Attorney Scandal
9. Hurrican Katrina response
10. Benghazi
11. Healthcare.gov roll out fiasco
12. Ignoring of terrorism/Bin Laden issues pre-9.11

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I forgot, its only objective on this forum to completely ignore the Obama administration's illegal actions. Sorry, I'll delete the post.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2015, 02:19:08 PM »


Remember being 'objective' isn't arbitrarily claiming both sides are equally bad.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 10:21:13 PM »

Emailgate is worse than all 12 combined (Beltway Pundit).
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