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« on: January 23, 2015, 08:50:21 PM »

www.nytimes.com/2015/01/24/upshot/matching-gop-presidential-candidates-with-those-who-tried-before.html

I just finished this article, here are some of the analogies it gave:

Bush=John Connally 1980
Christie=Giuliani 2008
Romney= Gore 2004 (if he ran) or Dukakis 1988
Rubio=Biden 2008
Walker=Pawlenty 2012
Paul=Dean 2004

What are some of yours?

I'm thinking of
Clinton=Bush 1988 or Nixon 1960
Bush=Nixon 1968
Huckabee=Santorum 2012 or Huckabee 2008 again
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 09:46:39 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2015, 09:50:49 PM by SMilo »

I was thinking Walker=TPAW for the longest time, but I'm coming around to the possibility he could be the nominee. Only problem is that I was supporting Pawlenty and fully expecting him to win at this point in 2011. At least now I'm virtually indifferent between Walker and 2 others - I just fear he has the best chance of those 3 because Christie = Rudy is very apt and another one I've been saying for awhile (unless NY does vote early) and Paul has all the perfect states but hasn't been able to expand his base. I thought a splintered field would help, but it's not.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 10:32:12 PM »

Dems:

Clinton: Gore 2000: She's not an incumbent, so I think that there will be at least some competition. I'm not sure that she could pull off a 50-state sweep, but 45 easily. Having been out of office for 4 years, she can distance herself somewhat from Obama, similar to what backfired on Gore.

Sanders: Dean 2004/Kucinich 2004: I think that Bernie could win Vermont (If Dean could win it after he withdrew, I think that Bernie can win it, especially if he stays in), but that's about it. Bernie might win a few counties and a few delegates outside of Vermont, but not that much past the first few caucuses/primaries. I added in Kucinich, because I think that Bernie will stick around longer than Clinton in an attempt to keep his message going. Paul 2012 wouldn't be too bad of a comparison either: both are quite far out of mainstream, but have at least some following.

Webb: He's a tricky one. I see Webb as having a lower floor than Sanders (once it becomes crystal clear the Warren is not and will not run in 2016, I think that left-wing activists will move towards Sanders), but at the same time, a higher ceiling than Sanders, who is easily painted as a left-wing radical.  Brown 1976 might not be too bad. Brown doesn't always stick with left of center ideas and is (especially prior to his comeback in 2010) willing to take some more right of center ideas, like Webb. I think that Webb could potentially win a state or two like Brown in 1976.

O'Malley: Pawlenty 2012: Decent governor, not too extreme (a bit to the left of Clinton), but he has the attracting power of a grapefruit. He may stay in a bit longer than Pawlenty, but I think that there are better Anti-Hillary candidates. If he does run, focuses on one state, and stays in through the first few primaries, he may be able to do as well as Huntsman in 2012.

Warren: Feingold 2008 or Wellstone 2000: Great progressive credentials, but won't run.

Biden: Quayle 1996: Incumbent VP, seen as a joke at times (Biden is nowhere near Quayle, but he sometimes puts off the slightly kooky uncle vibe), and ultimately didn't run.

(Jerry) Brown: Cuomo 1992: Popular governor and could be a darkhorse, but ultimately did not run. I wouldn't rule out a Brown 2016 candidacy (Sorry Sanders, I'd vote for Brown), but I'm not sure that he would (the only person who has any real idea is Brown himself).
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 11:36:19 PM »

I think that Ron Paul 2008 is the best analogy for Bernie Sanders since he'll be running against his own parties current consensus on many issues and is an old man who I think has the potential of attracting a lot of younger voters (those who cut there teeth in OWS) to his cause. He's also a movement candidate who doesn't have much real expectation of winning.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 06:15:44 PM »

Romney=Nixon 1968
Rand Paul=Reagan 1968
Jeb Bush=Rockefeller 1968
Clinton=Nixon 1968
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2015, 11:56:25 PM »

GOP
Former Gov. Jeb Bush = Gov. George W. Bush, 2000
Former Gov. Mitt Romney = Gov. Thomas Dewey, 1948
Gov. Chris Christie = Former Gov. Jon Huntsman, 2012
Former Sen. Rick Santorum = Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander, 2000
Former Gov. Mike Huckabee = Sen. John McCain, 2008
Sen. Rand Paul = Pat Buchanan, 1992
Sen. Marco Rubio = Sen. Howard Baker, 1980
Sen. Ted Cruz = Governor Ronald Reagan, 1968
Businesswoman Carly Fiorinia = Morry Taylor, 1996
Dr. Ben Carson = Congressman Robert Dornan, 1996
Gov. Bobby Jindal = Former Sen. Rick Santorum, 2012
Gov. Scott Walker = Former Gov. Mitt Romney, 2008
Fmr. Gov. Rick Perry = Former Ambassador Alan Keyes, 2000

DEM
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - Sen. Gary Hart, 1988
Former Sen. Jim Webb - Retired General Wesley Clark, 2004
Former Gov. Martin O'Malley - Former Gov. Howard Dean, 2004
Sen. Elizabeth Warren - Sen. Barack Obama, 2008
Sen. Bernie Sanders - Rep. Dennis Kucinich, 2008
Vice President Joe Biden - Vice President Al Gore, 2000
Sen. Amy Klobuchar - Sen. John Edwards, 2004
Fmr. Gov. Brian Schweitzer - Sen. Gary Hart, 1984

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 12:15:46 AM »

I think that Ron Paul 2008 is the best analogy for Bernie Sanders since he'll be running against his own parties current consensus on many issues and is an old man who I think has the potential of attracting a lot of younger voters (those who cut there teeth in OWS) to his cause. He's also a movement candidate who doesn't have much real expectation of winning.

Makes sense.  Do you think Ron's 08 bid had the foresight to be laying groundwork for a future Rand bid?  I wonder if Sanders views any in the party as a worthy successor...Warren perhaps?
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