Which Barack Obama accomplishment is your favorite?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Other:  Marrying Michelle.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

A few of my favorites are:

1. Destroying the best healthcare system in the world and lying about it ("If you like your plan, you can keep it")
2. Requiring federal funding of abortions, both in the US and abroad
3. Stifling the recovery by raising taxes on small business
4. Showing utter contempt for Israel
5. Emboldening America's enemies
6. Supporting rioters and rolling back race relations by 50 years
7. Wasting billions of "stimulus" dollars on unnecessary porkbarrel projects
8. Blaming George Bush for everything that goes wrong
9. Taking credit for Bush's accomplishments (Bailouts, capture/killing of Bin Laden, etc.)

[Lief 🗽]

oldies, pls take your racist nonsense back to stormfront and get out of here thanks

[King]

The Bush Administration's inadequate response to Dave Chappelle quitting standup comedy Hurricane Katrina rolled back race relations more than anything Obama could have done.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

A few of my favorites are:

1. Destroying the best healthcare system in the world and lying about it ("If you like your plan, you can keep it")

lolwat, when did Obama destroy the NHS?

[SWE]

4. Showing utter contempt for Israel

Unfortunately this isn't true

[Mr. Smith]

A few of my favorites are:

1. Destroying the best healthcare system in the world and lying about it ("If you like your plan, you can keep it")
2. Requiring federal funding of abortions, both in the US and abroad
3. Stifling the recovery by raising taxes on small business
4. Showing utter contempt for Israel
5. Emboldening America's enemies
6. Supporting rioters and rolling back race relations by 50 years
7. Wasting billions of "stimulus" dollars on unnecessary porkbarrel projects
8. Blaming George Bush for everything that goes wrong
9. Taking credit for Bush's accomplishments (Bailouts, capture/killing of Bin Laden, etc.)

  You mean...

1. Pretty much keeping the same idiot healthcare system that screws everyone not making millions and adding some sane provisions so that every centre-leftist will shut up about the half-assed ness of it, when there was supposed to be a public option? (Nordic healthcare is the best healthcare)

2. Not completely screwing over people that can't necessarily get abortions in private?

3. Bringing back income lost from Reaganomic stupidity, even with the unfortunate flipside, and not soaking he big-whigs more?

4. Not bowing down to Israel's every whim when they have SPIED on us, and trying the most since Carter to actually see the other side?

5. Doing more to settle maters down and return to diplomacy as opposed to "You're on the evil axis so screw you" and other foolish Us. vs. hem policies of Dubya?

6. Doing more to support race relations by bringing in a new perspective and NOT defaulting to the "welfare queen" mentality, yet sill more talk than action ala LBJ?

7. Put funding back into things hat could be very useful in the future, rather than cutting and cutting and cutting and then blaming it on the staff ala GOP and FEMA?

8. Not blaming George Bush and Congress more and taking the LBJ/FDR  smash against Reaganomics and Reaganism?

9. Taking credit where credit is due after Bush flailed around and pissed everyone off with the stupidest foreign policy since LBJ?


Surely THAT's what you mean, it has to be.

But going off that, it's still not enough, it's just a slowing down of regression.

Which leads me to the big question for red-avvies such as Lief: Why all the praise? Accomplishments should be reserved for progression,...not for slightly curbing regression!

[free my dawg]

We already established Oldies doesn't give a fyck about black people.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

We already established Oldies doesn't give a fyck about black people.

Or women, gays, or poors for that matter.

Oldies is the worst kind of person: bigoted, ignorant, and too stubborn to accept facts to change his views. Anytime he is challenged he hits up and digs through Google to reaffirm his confirmation bias. Hell, even things that are universally agreed upon across the spectrum (e.g. Obama getting credit for killing Bin Laden), he refuses to attribute.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

A few of my favorites are:

1. Destroying the best healthcare system in the world and lying about it ("If you like your plan, you can keep it")

Please explain how a system where millions are denied basic healthcare, where prices are artificially inflated to line the coffers of company executives, and where money takes priority over the health of our citizens is the "best in the world."

3. Stifling the recovery by raising taxes on small business

Unemployment is currently lower than it was during most of Reagan's presidency. http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

4. Showing utter contempt for Israel

Umm... how, exactly?

5. Emboldening America's enemies

Obama's foreign policy led to the death of Osama Bin Ladin and is currently destroying the Russian economy.

6. Supporting rioters and rolling back race relations by 50 years

Please. If anything, Obama has been hesitant to take action on this issue. And "rioters" is an interesting way to describe protesters who were attacked with tanks and tear gas.

7. Wasting billions of "stimulus" dollars on unnecessary porkbarrel projects

Most economists agree that government investments are necessary to effectively combat a recession. Would you have preferred Obama follow the "Herbert Hoover Guide To Ending Depressions" instead?

8. Blaming George Bush for everything that goes wrong

Because this has happened so often recently.

9. Taking credit for Bush's accomplishments (Bailouts, capture/killing of Bin Laden, etc.)

How does George W. Bush deserve credit for something that happened two years after he left office?

I'll be the first to admit that Obama has made mistakes, but your criticisms seem to be based more on conservative sound bites and Fox News conspiracy theories than actual facts.

[free my dawg]

We already established Oldies doesn't give a fyck about black people.

Or women, gays, or poors for that matter.

Oldies is the worst kind of person: bigoted, ignorant, and too stubborn to accept facts to change his views. Anytime he is challenged he hits up and digs through Google to reaffirm his confirmation bias. Hell, even things that are universally agreed upon across the spectrum (e.g. Obama getting credit for killing Bin Laden), he refuses to attribute.

Yeah, we've also established that he Atlas's resident projectionist and historical revisionist. I just thought that we should establish his blatant paternalism and his belief that the Republican Party is entitled to the African-American vote.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Difficult list to compile, since he has so many. I'm sure I missed a few.

Are you King's kindred spirit "Republican"?

As for this list, I question how many accomplishments are to be attributed to him specifically, even the one I'm about to choose: killing bin Laden.

[Lief 🗽]

I really don't understand how people are arguing that killing OBL can't be attributed to Obama. Unless your argument is that the only person it can be attributed to is the guy who literally pulled the trigger, but that's obviously a nonsense definition of "accomplishment."

[Consciously Unconscious]

Rising out of his difficult circumstances, obviously.  Growing up in Kenya and all. 

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Rising out of his difficult circumstances, obviously.  Growing up in Kenya and all. 

Please stop.

[Rockefeller GOP]

I really don't understand how people are arguing that killing OBL can't be attributed to Obama. Unless your argument is that the only person it can be attributed to is the guy who literally pulled the trigger, but that's obviously a nonsense definition of "accomplishment."

I'm not *not* attributing it to him, just pointing out that obviously the military commanders, troops on the ground and even the past efforts of the Bush administration are all part of the equation.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

oldies, pls take your racist nonsense back to stormfront and get out of here thanks

What's racist about what I said?  People should never riot to protest discrimination, whether it's real or perceived.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

We already established Oldies doesn't give a fyck about black people.

Wrong again.  I just don't think that rioting and killing "racist cops" is the way to stop discrimination.  That sort of behavior reinforces white racism by suggesting that all blacks are criminals and victims of police brutality.

[free my dawg]

We already established Oldies doesn't give a fyck about black people.

Wrong again.  I just don't think that rioting and killing "racist cops" is the way to stop discrimination.  That sort of behavior reinforces white racism by suggesting that all blacks are criminals and victims of police brutality.

That's completely irrelevant to the situation. As long as you aren't throwing out blatantly racist sh*t when you're talking about them...

oh.

[Türkisblau]

The Zinger is the correct answer.

I don't ever believe the president is responsible for like half of these.

If you can blame the president for when things go bad, you can attribute good things to the president as well.

Easily the ACA.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Improving America's image overseas, but a lot of these are pretty good (mostly the first term ones, which is like almost all of them).

[MurrayBannerman]

The gas one is funny.

[Mr. Smith]

The Zinger is the correct answer.

I don't ever believe the president is responsible for like half of these.

If you can blame the president for when things go bad, you can attribute good things to the president as well.

Easily the ACA.

This, but I'm not attributing a Heritage Foundation plan to him that he used because he didn't have the guts to go the whole way.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

7. Wasting billions of "stimulus" dollars on unnecessary porkbarrel projects

Most economists agree that government investments are necessary to effectively combat a recession. Would you have preferred Obama follow the "Herbert Hoover Guide To Ending Depressions" instead?

Actually, Obama pretty much did follow the "Herbert Hoover Guide To Ending Depressions".  The only significant difference was that Obama was willing to engage in deficit spending, but to be fair both major parties in the 1930s had a strong abhorrence of deficit spending.

[Rockefeller GOP]

7. Wasting billions of "stimulus" dollars on unnecessary porkbarrel projects

Most economists agree that government investments are necessary to effectively combat a recession. Would you have preferred Obama follow the "Herbert Hoover Guide To Ending Depressions" instead?

Actually, Obama pretty much did follow the "Herbert Hoover Guide To Ending Depressions".  The only significant difference was that Obama was willing to engage in deficit spending, but to be fair both major parties in the 1930s had a strong abhorrence of deficit spending.

The myth that Hoover let the Great Depression get worse by not being interventionist is a truly odd creation of history...