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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2015, 07:59:56 PM »

Grayson and DWS will lose. Both are too partisan and are only in congress because their districts were drawn specifically for them.

It's not as if Mr. Rubio is terribly unpopular, or scandal-ridden, or anything of the sort. Democrats need Murphy or Graham to win, and that's a fact. (Heck, I'd be willing to vote for either one, as they're both in the more conservative side of the democratic party, and Rubio's hardly some moderate stalwart and is willing to flip-flop solely for political gain.)

So, a partisan Republican can win a U.S. Senate seat but the same is not true of a partisan Democrat?

Sherrod Brown and Claire McCaskill have won in purple states when all they do is bash Republicans.

But how did they get there? It took a wave. So it would take either a Patrick Murphy + flawless campaign + Rubio stumble in a neutral environment, or a national wave carrying a generic Dem to get across the finish line for Democrats.

DWS is the worst. She's in it for herself and not the team. I hope she gets primaried in her district, and never runs for Senate.

Paul Hackett was the whacktivist candidate, not Sherrod Brown.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2015, 09:09:43 PM »

Democrats won't need quite as much luck if Rubio decides to run for president instead. Then, I'd say their odds are about even money with someone like Murphy.
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2015, 10:30:02 PM »

Democrats won't need quite as much luck if Rubio decides to run for president instead. Then, I'd say their odds are about even money with someone like Murphy.

IDK, the Republicans have a very strong bench in the state.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 01:40:25 PM »

Grayson and DWS will lose. Both are too partisan and are only in congress because their districts were drawn specifically for them.

It's not as if Mr. Rubio is terribly unpopular, or scandal-ridden, or anything of the sort. Democrats need Murphy or Graham to win, and that's a fact. (Heck, I'd be willing to vote for either one, as they're both in the more conservative side of the democratic party, and Rubio's hardly some moderate stalwart and is willing to flip-flop solely for political gain.)

So, a partisan Republican can win a U.S. Senate seat but the same is not true of a partisan Democrat?

Yes, because Rubio's good at coming off as more moderate than he is to the uninformed, because of incumbency, because he's not a raging socon, and because FL still has a republican lean, even if only a slight one, outside of presidential elections

^ Hypocrite ^
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2015, 01:43:49 PM »

Folks, you are evidently unaware that Alan Grayson actually talks about the issues which affect most voters.

I agree with the poster who wants the Democrats to run Alan Grayson. If it's a presidential year won by a Democrat, and Florida will carry, then Alan Grayson can unseat Marco Rubio. Now, that of course can be disputed for those who have no problem with the Koch brothers owning Marco Rubio and figuring that Koch money will make the difference. But, there's another Atlas Forum  thread in which Republican posters (and independents who actually are Republicans) figure that has no impact.
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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »

Folks, you are evidently unaware that Alan Grayson actually talks about the issues which affect most voters.

I agree with the poster who wants the Democrats to run Alan Grayson. If it's a presidential year won by a Democrat, and Florida will carry, then Alan Grayson can unseat Marco Rubio. Now, that of course can be disputed for those who have no problem with the Koch brothers owning Marco Rubio and figuring that Koch money will make the difference. But, there's another Atlas Forum  thread in which Republican posters (and independents who actually are Republicans) figure that has no impact.

Grayson has as good a chance of winning as Michelle Bachmann would if she ran against Klobucher in 2018.
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2015, 09:11:31 AM »

SaintPetersBlog knows who we really need to run.

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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2015, 11:03:57 AM »

How bout that:

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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2015, 10:23:13 PM »


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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2015, 10:33:40 PM »


You were joking when you said Crist is the man we need to run, right?
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2015, 10:46:59 PM »

As one of the few people on this forum who doesn't despise Crist...please god no.
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2015, 11:14:53 PM »

I think Charlie Crist is going to save the Florida Democrats

By making them realize even they wouldnt stoop that low

Never overestimate Florida Democrats.
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2015, 11:16:46 PM »

I think Charlie Crist is going to save the Florida Democrats

By making them realize even they wouldnt stoop that low

Never overestimate Florida Democrats.

I think you mean underestimate.
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2015, 02:16:15 AM »

I think Charlie Crist is going to save the Florida Democrats

By making them realize even they wouldnt stoop that low

Never overestimate Florida Democrats.

Only if I said overestimate how much they suck at elections.

I think you mean underestimate.
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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2015, 04:05:08 PM »

Quinnipiac shows Rubio at 36-36 favorability. He's definitely vulnerable, particularly if he scampers back with his tail between his legs after an aborted presidential run. FL Republicans are probably better off lining up a different candidate if he decides to run for president.
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2015, 05:45:07 PM »

More from Grayson:

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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2015, 05:48:11 PM »

While running boring inoffensive people in the midterms has doomed Florida Democrats, they need to run a boring inoffensive person to ride Hillary. No Grayson or DWS.
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2015, 06:11:35 PM »

While running boring inoffensive people in the midterms has doomed Florida Democrats, they need to run a boring inoffensive person to ride Hillary. No Grayson or DWS.

I'm sure they'll find a way to blow this by nominating one of them.
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2015, 09:54:33 PM »

Alan Grayson will make Christine O'Donnell 2010 look like a legitimate candidate.

Needless to say, I can't wait to see it!
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2015, 11:49:24 PM »

While running boring inoffensive people in the midterms has doomed Florida Democrats, they need to run a boring inoffensive person to ride Hillary. No Grayson or DWS.

I'm sure they'll find a way to blow this by nominating one of them.

FL Dems are amazing at losing. I don't think that Grayson could make it through the primary.
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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2015, 11:21:52 AM »

With Ohio hanging in balance and with Strickland as a strong recruit over Sittenfield, who won't win, I think we will have the five senate seats needed to reestablish control OH,ILL, WI, FL-with Murphy, not Grayson, and PA-which will be the tipping point race of this election.
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2015, 07:37:19 PM »

Grayson would make the race entertaining. The most important thing to me, is that the campaign is interesting.
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2015, 09:30:49 PM »

Folks, you are evidently unaware that Alan Grayson actually talks about the issues which affect most voters.

I agree with the poster who wants the Democrats to run Alan Grayson. If it's a presidential year won by a Democrat, and Florida will carry, then Alan Grayson can unseat Marco Rubio. Now, that of course can be disputed for those who have no problem with the Koch brothers owning Marco Rubio and figuring that Koch money will make the difference. But, there's another Atlas Forum  thread in which Republican posters (and independents who actually are Republicans) figure that has no impact.
You guys have your own Koch: his name is Tom Steyer!

Grayson won't win a race statewide: he is too polarizing.
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2015, 09:33:31 PM »

Grayson and DWS will lose. Both are too partisan and are only in congress because their districts were drawn specifically for them.

It's not as if Mr. Rubio is terribly unpopular, or scandal-ridden, or anything of the sort. Democrats need Murphy or Graham to win, and that's a fact. (Heck, I'd be willing to vote for either one, as they're both in the more conservative side of the democratic party, and Rubio's hardly some moderate stalwart and is willing to flip-flop solely for political gain.)


On immigration he has flipped before true.
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2015, 09:45:39 PM »

Grayson and DWS will lose. Both are too partisan and are only in congress because their districts were drawn specifically for them.

It's not as if Mr. Rubio is terribly unpopular, or scandal-ridden, or anything of the sort. Democrats need Murphy or Graham to win, and that's a fact. (Heck, I'd be willing to vote for either one, as they're both in the more conservative side of the democratic party, and Rubio's hardly some moderate stalwart and is willing to flip-flop solely for political gain.)

So, a partisan Republican can win a U.S. Senate seat but the same is not true of a partisan Democrat?

Sherrod Brown and Claire McCaskill have won in purple states when all they do is bash Republicans.

But how did they get there? It took a wave. So it would take either a Patrick Murphy + flawless campaign + Rubio stumble in a neutral environment, or a national wave carrying a generic Dem to get across the finish line for Democrats.

DWS is the worst. She's in it for herself and not the team. I hope she gets primaried in her district, and never runs for Senate.
Brown has bashed Republicans. McCaskill I think she is critical skeptical of both parties.
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