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Ray Goldfield
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« on: January 26, 2015, 07:30:44 PM »

Uh, not quite sure why the republicans are doing this. Obama has a lot more ability to nominate a liberal replacement to whoever retires in the next two years if he only needs 5 republican votes instead of 14.

Eh, the Republicans aren't going to block a liberal replacement for Ginsburg, and not a single Republican will vote to confirm a liberal replacement for Kennedy/Scalia.

The bigger concern is if the Dems win the next election and narrowly get the Senate back. I doubt Scalia and Kennedy are holding on till 2020, to say nothing of 2024.
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Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 02:39:35 PM »

I expect if Obama wound up having to nominate a replacement for Scalia/Kennedy, both sides would be forced to compromise on a moderate placeholder. Essentially an older, well-respected centrist judge who would probably serve for no more than 20 years and would essentially be another Kennedy.

Judge Merrick Garland's name has been tossed around in the past and while he doesn't fit Obama's pattern of picking judges (62 years old, white male), he's the most likely candidate to fill that slot and avoid a crisis.
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Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 07:53:31 PM »

Why should anybody imagine that the current ideological makeup of the Supreme Court is/should be set in stone? George H.W. Bush nominated Clarence Thomas to replace Thurgood Marshall, for God's sake. George W. Bush nominated Samuel Alito to replace Sandra Day O'Connor. Why is it OK for the right to use nominations to ratchet the court in their direction and then deny any movement in the other direction by appeals to procedure and tradition or something?

I think they think they can get some good press out of this, still stop any nominees of Obama's they don't like that might crop up over the next two years, and can maybe ride that wave of bipartisan feeling to better results in 2016.

Because of the court's extreme ideological polarization in the last 20 years, a change of just Kennedy's seat to either the left or the right would set off a massive sea change in policy equivalent to one party winning supermajorities in congress with an ideological presidency. That huge of a change without an explicit democratic approval would arguably be illegitimate. Hence the concern. It wouldn't be a problem if the court were nonpartisan just interpreted the law as it is supposed to do, but it has become the third (and arguably most powerful) legislative branch in the current generation.

Were you making this argument when Bush appointed Alito to replace O'Connor?

Alito and O'Connor were still roughly on the same side of the fence. And many Dems did oppose Alito.

Including Obama. Who, it's worth mentioning, also opposed John Roberts to fill Rehnquist's seat, which indicates that he would never vote for a conservative justice even in a "Conservative seat". Which means by that standard, he got about as much courtesy from the GOP on nominees as he afforded as Senator.
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Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 08:38:33 PM »

Why should anybody imagine that the current ideological makeup of the Supreme Court is/should be set in stone? George H.W. Bush nominated Clarence Thomas to replace Thurgood Marshall, for God's sake. George W. Bush nominated Samuel Alito to replace Sandra Day O'Connor. Why is it OK for the right to use nominations to ratchet the court in their direction and then deny any movement in the other direction by appeals to procedure and tradition or something?

I think they think they can get some good press out of this, still stop any nominees of Obama's they don't like that might crop up over the next two years, and can maybe ride that wave of bipartisan feeling to better results in 2016.

Because of the court's extreme ideological polarization in the last 20 years, a change of just Kennedy's seat to either the left or the right would set off a massive sea change in policy equivalent to one party winning supermajorities in congress with an ideological presidency. That huge of a change without an explicit democratic approval would arguably be illegitimate. Hence the concern. It wouldn't be a problem if the court were nonpartisan just interpreted the law as it is supposed to do, but it has become the third (and arguably most powerful) legislative branch in the current generation.

Were you making this argument when Bush appointed Alito to replace O'Connor?

Alito and O'Connor were still roughly on the same side of the fence. And many Dems did oppose Alito.

Including Obama. Who, it's worth mentioning, also opposed John Roberts to fill Rehnquist's seat, which indicates that he would never vote for a conservative justice even in a "Conservative seat". Which means by that standard, he got about as much courtesy from the GOP on nominees as he afforded as Senator.

Well, Obama answered to Illinois prior to 2008, and Illinois was Kerry's 7th strongest state in 2004.  He should have been one of the last 15 or so senators to support a Republican nominee for anything, right?

So by this standard, it's not obstructionism if the Senators from, say, Alabama, Idaho, Utah, and Oklahoma never support a Democratic nominee for anything again?

And in case there's any doubt about where this started, Ginsburg was confirmed unanimously.
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