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« on: January 27, 2015, 08:56:23 AM »
« edited: January 27, 2015, 06:17:34 PM by Intell »

On an interesting arcticle, I fond an interesting picture detaling the white vote for each state.

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 09:24:48 AM »

Is that 2008 or 2012?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 10:48:37 AM »

It was 2008.

I distinctly recall Louisiana whites giving Barack Obama 14 percent of their vote in 2008.

Not only that, the 2012 exit polls, state-by-state, excluded 19 states including two of the Top 10 most-populous—Texas and Georgia.

This thread, which is really good, is example why it's a mistake to not exit-poll all 50 states plus District of Columbia.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 11:07:22 AM »

Superficially, this is 2012, right?



It certainly strengthens the argument that New England is it's own culture.  Iowa is probably the product of gerrymandering by the Mississippi river and the Pacific Northwest was largely settled by former New Englanders.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 12:29:00 PM »

Superficially, this is 2012, right?



It certainly strengthens the argument that New England is it's own culture.  Iowa is probably the product of gerrymandering by the Mississippi river and the Pacific Northwest was largely settled by former New Englanders.

Except for obviously flipping IA, I can't think how the 2004 white voter map would look different. Might Bush have won it anywhere else? Might he have lost it anywhere else? The 2004 state-level exit polls aren't working right now :/
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 01:33:41 PM »

There are posts somewhere on this forum that have the projected 2012 white vote by state.

Just to show it off (because I put a lot of work into it), here is my project that outlined Obama's share of the white vote by county in Georgia in 2012. FYI, it was 20% statewide (to be exact, 19.6%):

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 01:58:08 PM »

Interesting that you've got Atlanta at 55%, but just to the west there's that 5% county (the lowest I could find). What's up there?

Yeah, that's Walton County - BK lives near there, so he can probably tell us all about it. I've never had an excuse to go to that county (who would?)

growing up, I had reasons to go to Walton County- we played them in sports, and I had some friends down that way (and during high school dated girls from Loganville and Monroe)

but looking at the area, it strikes me geographically as a place where the worst of rubery would fuse with awful transplant conservative cookie-cutter subdivision mentality, thanks to the outward growth of the metro.

This is essentially correct, but Walton County is basically the worst of the Atlanta suburbs by far.

Fun facts about Walton County!

1. Jody Hice, America's worst Congressman, was the pastor of their largest Baptist Church
2. McMansion hellhole suburbia is everywhere, especially around Loganville.
3. The County Seat of Monroe is possibly the most segregated community I've ever been to, and the only place I know of where that "wrong side of the tracks" thing is still 100% true. The whites live in the south of town, the blacks in the north, no exceptions. And the locals literally call the north of town "Monkey-roe"
4. The local police actually drive around in these:



5. This is completely anecdotal, but the people I knew from down there were either mega jesus freaks, or living in outright hedonism- no middle ground. I can elaborate on this, kind of hard to explain, but it was a consistent trend I noticed from everyone I knew from the area.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 06:18:19 PM »

The map was from 2008. Sorry, for not mentioning.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 07:25:40 PM »

Shows White vote by state for 2012 with CNN Exit Polling.

http://www.amren.com/features/2012/11/race-and-the-2012-election/


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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 07:33:57 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2015, 07:36:53 PM by Intell »

According to Buzz Feed, http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/what-the-2012-election-would-have-looked-like-with#.sqnxPzk6z

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 07:50:20 PM »


and here added estimates for the other states. 


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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 07:07:22 PM »


Delaware white voters clearly left of Maryland?  Fascinating.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 07:34:29 PM »


Not too surprising, since Maryland has the fairly conservative Appalachian Western region as well as conservative Baltimore suburbs.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2015, 07:51:45 PM »

So, the states in which Obama won the majority of the white vote are almost the...

... Dukakis states.

Except Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine


Interesting
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2015, 07:53:11 PM »

So, the states in which Obama won the majority of the white vote are almost the...

... Dukakis states.

Except Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine


Interesting

Not surprising, really.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2015, 07:58:36 PM »

So, the states in which Obama won the majority of the white vote are almost the...

... Dukakis states.

Except Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine


Interesting

Not surprising, really.

Well, OR and WA (and NorCal- evidently overwhelmed by the rest of CA) can be thought of as a western extension of cultural New England.  Just how long the shadow of the 1980's farm crisis has lingered in Iowa is surprising, though.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2015, 08:07:36 PM »


Given the lack of exit polling in every state (and that the source is Buzzfeed), I'm inherently suspicious of that. Obama surely won white men in Hawaii (where whites are about as Democratic as the state on average) and Rhode Island.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2015, 03:07:51 AM »

On an interesting arcticle, I fond an interesting picture detaling the white vote for each state.



Maryland looks a bit high there, given the large minority population. The white vote must be closer to NY or IL than to the whiter states of MA or RI (all states ending up with close to 62% of the total vote).
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2015, 03:19:45 AM »

How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2015, 12:38:51 PM »

How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 

This is my question. 60% among whites in Oregon, yet Oregon was 56% Obama?
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2015, 07:12:45 PM »

How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 

Error?
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2015, 07:55:56 PM »

How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 

Error?

Probably.  Also, most of New England looks a bit too low. 
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2015, 03:56:18 PM »

How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 

Error?

Probably.  Also, most of New England looks a bit too low. 

Maybe Oregon Asians and Native Americans are unusually Republican-voting?
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2015, 04:03:25 PM »

On an interesting arcticle, I fond an interesting picture detaling the white vote for each state.



Probably a pretty huge drop off in the white Louisiana vote from 96 to 2000...
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2015, 08:51:51 PM »

Big changes since 1980, when West Virginia was virtually the only state where whites voted for Carter (the others were DC, RI, MN).
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