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« on: January 27, 2015, 11:25:31 AM »

Good.......about time.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, who disappeared from his base in Afghanistan in 2009 but was released last year in a prisoner swap with the Taliban, will be charged with desertion, according to NBC.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 11:29:29 AM »

Yay for jingoinism, nationalism and militarism!
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 11:34:44 AM »

But when will Hillary Clinton be charged for Benghazi? Huh
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 11:51:15 AM »

Good. Bringing him back was absolutely the right thing to do - no man left behind - but his actions caused the deaths of people searching for him. He needs to answer for that.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 11:54:14 AM »

I wonder if his daddy is still Taliban Dad.

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 11:54:58 AM »

Good. He deserted his post, is a traitor to the United States, and needs to face severe penalties for deserting while serving in the US Armed Forces. No matter the reason.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 12:41:53 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 12:44:00 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 12:50:41 PM »

But when will Hillary Clinton Barack Obama be charged for Benghazi using Saul Alinsky tactics Huh

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 12:56:57 PM »

I don't know why I continually get let down by this country. I should know better by now.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 01:03:28 PM »

But when will Hillary Clinton be charged for Benghazi? Huh

When will Vince Foster's murder be avenged?
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2015, 01:07:06 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 03:35:29 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 03:48:10 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.
Can you really blame him for walking off either?
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 03:50:27 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

I don't agree.

Bergdahl clearly seems to have blatantly deserted.  And, he caused enormous suffering for other people.  He put his family through horrible suffering.  He put US troops in serious danger when they went to look for him, potentially leading to several deaths.  And, he caused us to exchange 5 Taliban prisoners for him.  I'm sure Bergdahl suffered, but it's entirely his own fault. 

The only defense I could think of is that he is mentally ill.  If he has severe psychiatric issues, I think maybe you can give him a lenient punishment.  But, I absolutely think he should answer for what he did.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 03:56:29 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

I don't agree.

Bergdahl clearly seems to have blatantly deserted.  And, he caused enormous suffering for other people.  He put his family through horrible suffering.  He put US troops in serious danger when they went to look for him, potentially leading to several deaths.  And, he caused us to exchange 5 Taliban prisoners for him.  I'm sure Bergdahl suffered, but it's entirely his own fault. 

The only defense I could think of is that he is mentally ill.  If he has severe psychiatric issues, I think maybe you can give him a lenient punishment.  But, I absolutely think he should answer for what he did.
Of course he has mental issues; the war over there is brutal. I'd be surprised if he didn't have some form of PTSD dating before his so called desertion.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 04:00:29 PM »

He knew what he signed up for. Nobody was forcing him to join the military, it was his decision.

The military (wisely) doesn't take breaking rules lightly.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 06:46:09 PM »

Piece of sh**t needs to be locked up in Leavenworth forever.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 07:35:05 PM »


This isn't a game of Ingress... you leave your post and your fellow soldiers could get killed.  What he did was a clear dereliction of duty and you don't get a free pass.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2015, 08:00:31 PM »

Obama was happy for an excuse to reduce the Guantanamo population by 5 and get us closer to closing the door.
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2015, 08:04:35 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

Perhaps they could charge him and have him answer for it and then commute any penalty as time served.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2015, 08:15:25 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

Perhaps they could charge him and have him answer for it and then commute any penalty as time served.

I can't tell whether you're seriously suggesting this or not, but I think that isn't a bad idea at all, actually.
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2015, 08:54:53 PM »

Piece of sh**t needs to be locked up in Leavenworth forever.

Exactly. Soldiers died looking for his ass. This isn't a simple question of going AWOL.
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2015, 08:58:45 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

Perhaps they could charge him and have him answer for it and then commute any penalty as time served.

I can't tell whether you're seriously suggesting this or not, but I think that isn't a bad idea at all, actually.

I am seriously suggesting it, only phrasing it in a tongue-in-cheek way.
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2015, 09:05:12 PM »

What does the United States military gain by doing this, exactly?

You can't just wander off with no reason when you're in the military.  And, the military is kind of a stickler for rules and discipline for whatever reason.

It's just that getting held captive by the Taliban for four or five years or so would fit most people's definitions of 'having suffered enough' and then some.

Perhaps they could charge him and have him answer for it and then commute any penalty as time served.

I can't tell whether you're seriously suggesting this or not, but I think that isn't a bad idea at all, actually.

It sounds like this is exactly what could happen in terms of avoiding any jail time, but there will still be a monetary penalty re: not getting back pay:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bowe-bergdahl-likely-be-charged-desertion-officials-say-n294466

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