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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2015, 06:17:49 PM »

Like I said, less Senators, more Wendy Shermans, Huma Abdeins, Joel Kleins, and Shaun Donovans.
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2015, 06:38:32 PM »

Not sure if this belongs in this section, but it seems to be the best fit.

There aren't enough women or minorities in this list, and all of the choices hold elected office which obviously won't happen.  In both Bill Clinton's first cabinet and Barack Obama's first cabinet 8 of the secretaries previously held office.  Also, some of the Senators from purple or red states are very unlikely to be picked.

1.Treasury, Tom Carper, Delaware Senator and former Governor
2.Commerce, John Lynch, former New Hampshire Governor, former State Party Chair and Businessman
3.Labor, Sherrod Brown, Ohio Senator
4.Interior, Heidi Heitkamp, North Dakota Senator, former energy company director
5.Agriculture, Brad Henry, former Oklahoma Governor
6.Energy, Angus King, former Maine Governor, former Pres. Northeastern Energy Management Inc
7.Transportation, Martin O'Malley, former Maryland Governor
8.Housing and Urban Development, Jeff Merkley, Oregon Senator, fmr Exec Dir Portland Habitat for Humanity
9.Education, Michael Bennett, Colorado Senator, former Denver Public Schools Superintendent
10.Health and Human Services, Brian Schatz, Hawaii Senator, fmr CEO Hawaii Helping Hands Hawaii
11.Veteran's Affairs, Paul Hackett
12.Defence, Jack Reed, Rhode Island Senator, former Army Reserve Major
13.State, Joe Biden, U.S Vice President
14.Homeland Security, Deval Patrick, former Massachusetts Governor
15.Attorney General, Christine Gregoire, former Washington Governor, fmr State Attorney General

throwing away two senate seats in ND and CO?
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2015, 02:58:01 PM »

Andrew Cuomo for AG, especially if he raises a lot of money for her.
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2015, 12:41:57 PM »

Andrew Cuomo for AG, especially if he raises a lot of money for her.

It's hard to be Attorney General in prison.

OK, there are no charges against him (yet).

I'd hate to see somebody so ethically challenged be given the most ethically sensitive portfolio as Attorney General.

I missed one other cabinet possible, who is likely to get in:
Ed Rendell former Pennsylvania governor.  He could get Homeland Security, Transporatation, Health and Human Services or Attorney General.  He was a big backer of her in 2008 so he's a strong bet to be rewarded by her.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2015, 08:13:12 PM »

Non elected politician.  The likely Secretary of Defence
William Harry McRaven (born November 6, 1955) is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. He previously served from June 13, 2008, to August 2011 as Commander, Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)[2] and from June 2006 to March 2008 as Commander, Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).[2]
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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2015, 08:18:57 PM »

Non elected politician.  The likely Secretary of Defence
William Harry McRaven (born November 6, 1955) is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. He previously served from June 13, 2008, to August 2011 as Commander, Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)[2] and from June 2006 to March 2008 as Commander, Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).[2]
The Secretary of Defense must be retired from the military for ten years.
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2015, 08:22:44 PM »

I'm predicting Joe Lieberman as Secretary of State.
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »

Non elected politician.  The likely Secretary of Defence
William Harry McRaven (born November 6, 1955) is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. He previously served from June 13, 2008, to August 2011 as Commander, Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)[2] and from June 2006 to March 2008 as Commander, Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).[2]
The Secretary of Defense must be retired from the military for ten years.

Thanks. Learn something new...
Maybe Secretary of State then.
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2015, 09:06:42 PM »

Non elected politician.  The likely Secretary of Defence
William Harry McRaven (born November 6, 1955) is a retired United States Navy admiral who last served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command from August 8, 2011, to August 28, 2014. He previously served from June 13, 2008, to August 2011 as Commander, Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)[2] and from June 2006 to March 2008 as Commander, Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).[2]
The Secretary of Defense must be retired from the military for ten years.

Thanks. Learn something new...
Maybe Secretary of State then.
Maybe National Security Advisor?
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2015, 09:47:32 PM »
« Edited: February 03, 2015, 05:19:41 AM by Adam T »

A few changes.  I've removed a couple sitting Senators.  Though I've replaced one with another sitting senator, Dianne Feinstein, she's almost certain to retire from the senate in 2018 anyway. I've increased the number of women to 3, which is only one or two less than the likely actual number.  As I've said already I'm well aware only around half of the cabinet usually goes to elected politicians.


1.Treasury, Tom Carper, Delaware Senator and former Governor
2.Commerce, John Lynch, former New Hampshire Governor, former State Party Chair and Businessman
3.Labor, Deval Patrick, former Massachusetts Governor, former Assistant U.S A.G for civil rights
4.Interior, Mark Udall, former Colorado Senator, former Executive Director State Outward Bound
5.Agriculture, Brad Henry, former Oklahoma Governor
6.Energy, Angus King, Maine Senator, former Governor, fmr Pres. Northeastern Energy Management
7.Transportation, Martin O'Malley, former Maryland Governor
8.Housing and Urban Development, Julian Castro, present HUD Secretary
9.Education, Christine Gregoire, Former Washington Governor
10.Health and Human Services, Michelle Nunn, 2014 U.S Senate Candidate, 1,000 Points of Light
11.Veteran's Affairs, Claudia Kennedy, Retired Army General,
12.Defense, Wesley Clark, Retired Army General, 2004 Presidential Candidate
13.State, Joe Biden, U.S Vice President
14.Homeland Security, Dianne Feinstein, California Senator, Homeland Subcommittee Member
15.Attorney General, Ed Rendell, former Pennsylvania Governor, former Philadelphia District Attorney

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A few more changes.  I just realized I didn't have a single visible minority member of the cabinet.  Also removed the remaining vulnerable sitting senators.

A couple more visible minority members and a Republican or two and Hillary is all set!
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2015, 03:50:08 PM »

Whoever suggested Howard Bloom for Education had better have meant Harold Bloom. He'd be unbelievably, sickeningly terrible, but at least what he does for a living is related to education in a real way. Howard Bloom was a publicist for Prince, for God's sake, and the books and articles on scientific subjects that he has published generally aren't that highly regarded.
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2015, 08:04:44 PM »

Whoever suggested Howard Bloom for Education had better have meant Harold Bloom. He'd be unbelievably, sickeningly terrible, but at least what he does for a living is related to education in a real way. Howard Bloom was a publicist for Prince, for God's sake, and the books and articles on scientific subjects that he has published generally aren't that highly regarded.

Actually, he was a publicist for Michael Jackson.  Not sure about Prince.
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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2015, 06:25:01 AM »

My turn to try... and probably fail dismally.

Chief of Staff; Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe

US Ambassador- European Union; Carlyle Group co-chairman David Rubenstein

US Ambassador- NATO; Former Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Policy Affairs Phillip Gordon

US Ambassador-UN (She's not going to retain Samantha Power, obviously), Former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, Michele Flournoy.

National Security Advisor- Retired General Wesley Clark

Administrator Small Business Association- Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg

Chair of the Council of Economic Advisors- Chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Rebecca Blank

Trade Representative- Dreamworks CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg

OMB Director- Former California Treasurer Bill Lockyer

EPA Administrator- Current EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy

FBI Director- Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan

CIA Director- Retired General Anthony Zinni

Secretary of Veterans Affairs- Secretary of the Army John McHugh

Secretary of Energy- Former Louisiana Senator John Breaux

Secretary of Education- Current Secretary of Education Arne Duncan (though why he'd want to keep the job is beyond me)

Secretary of Labor- New York City Public Advocate Letitia James

Secretary of Transportation- Former Congressman Bill Sarpalius (TX-13)

Secretary of the Interior- Former Montana Governor Judy Martz

Secretary of Commerce- HP Chairman, President and CEO Meg Whitman

Secretary of Agriculture- Former North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan

Secretary of Health and Human Services- Congressman Ruben Hinojosa (TX-15)

Secretary of the Treasury- Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez (NY-7)

Secretary of Homeland Security- California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom

Secretary of Defense- Former Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman

Attorney General- Either incumbent Loretta Lynch, or U.S Attorney for the Southern District of New York Preet Bharara

Secretary of State- Hawaii Senator Maizie Hirono




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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2015, 07:45:19 AM »

I thought she had to be elected first, please folks let's not run away with ourselves. Have something better to talk about. What about Jeb Bush's administration?  Have some good cabinet picks.
Secretary of State, Jon Huntsman
Secretary of the Treasury,  Mitt Romney
Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz
White House chief of staff, David Koch el
etc.etc.
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2015, 10:23:09 AM »


Secretary of Energy- Former Louisiana Senator John Breaux

Secretary of Homeland Security- California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom

Secretary of Defense- Former Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman

Thanks for playing!

1.Breaux, no way anybody in an oil producing state would be appointed to Energy
2.Newsom, wants to be California Governor
3.Lieberman, is that meant as a joke?
4.Arne Duncan, he'll have already been in Education for the entire Obama term.
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2015, 05:21:10 PM »

I can easily see Michele Flournoy being appointed (and easily confirmed) as Defense Secretary.  Wouldn't she be the first woman in that position? 



Also, if Loretta Lynch wins confirmation, Hillary could keep her on the way Obama kept Robert Gates as Sec-Def. 
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2015, 05:26:09 PM »

I can easily see Michele Flournoy being appointed (and easily confirmed) as Defense Secretary.  Wouldn't she be the first woman in that position? 



Also, if Loretta Lynch wins confirmation, Hillary could keep her on the way Obama kept Robert Gates as Sec-Def. 

True, but there is not a doubt in my 'mind' that if Ed Rendell is in good health that he will be offered a position in a Hillary Clinton cabinet.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2015, 07:04:41 PM »

60-70% of the cabinet will be career people. Example - Robert Gates was primarily in the intelligence and Defense sectors of the government before becoming Defense Secretary. Another two examples - Ashton Carter and Condi Rice. Just look at Hillary Clinton's campaign advisors or whoever is considered the leading Democratic voice on x and y issue. They usually staff the Secretary and undersecretary posts. Ditto with the Republicans.

Most of the power resides in the White House, not the cabinet. Also putting a bunch of elected people who are more used to being show horses also causes problems for the White House. It's just better to give an experienced guy from your party who has experience with that agency and isn't from the elected world to run the agency.  There are exceptions but this is generally the rule.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2015, 07:08:05 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2015, 06:46:48 PM by Adam T »

60-70% of the cabinet will be career people. Example - Robert Gates was primarily in the intelligence and Defense sectors of the government before becoming Defense Secretary. Another two examples - Ashton Carter and Condi Rice. Just look at Hillary Clinton's campaign advisors or whoever is considered the leading Democratic voice on x and y issue. They usually staff the Secretary and undersecretary posts. Ditto with the Republicans.

Most of the power resides in the White House, not the cabinet. Also putting a bunch of elected people who are more used to being show horses also causes problems for the White House. It's just better to give an experienced guy from your party who has experience with that agency and isn't from the elected world to run the agency.  There are exceptions but this is generally the rule.


If you read my other comments on this thread, you'll see that that just isn't true (at least not in modern times.)

In Bill Clinton's initial cabinet 8 of the 14 secretaries held prior elected office.
In George W. Bush's initial cabinet 9 of the 15 (after the addition of Homeland Security) held prior elected office.
In Barack Obama's initial cabinet 8 of the 15 secretaries held prior elected office.
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« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2015, 05:36:05 AM »
« Edited: March 31, 2015, 05:37:58 AM by Adam T »

Read that Former New Hampshire Governor John Lynch has no interest in getting back into politics, elected or otherwise, especially not if it involves going to Washington D.C.   So, had to drop him.  

Added one more woman, and a Republican woman at that, dropped all the current U.S Senators.  Still not enough minorities, but otherwise I can send this list to HRC for acceptance.
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1.Treasury, Jack Markell, Delaware Governor,56 (in 2016), 2008-2016
2.Commerce, Olympia Snow,69, Former Republican Maine Senator, 1994-2012
3.Labor, Mark Schauer,55, Former U.S Representative, 2008-2010, 2014 Michigan Governor Nominee
4.Interior, Sally Jewell,50, Incumbent Interior Secretary, 2013-
5.Agriculture, Brad Henry,53, Former Oklahoma Governor, 2002-2010
6.Energy, Mark Udall,66, Former Colorado Senator, 2008-2014
7.Housing and Urban Development, Julian Castro,42, Incumbent Secretary, 2013-
8.Transportation, Martin O'Malley,53, Former Maryland Governor, 2006-2014
9.Education, Christine Gregoire,69, Former Washington Governor, 2004-2012
10.Health and Human Services, Michelle Nunn,50, 2014 Georgia Nominee for U. S Senate
11.Veterans Affairs, Claudia Kennedy,69, Retired Army Lieutenant General
12.Defense, Wesley Clark,72, Retired Army General
13.State, Joe Biden,74, U.S Vice President 2008-2016
14.Homeland Security, Deval Patrick,60, Former Massachusetts Governor 2006-2014
15.Attorney General, Ed Rendell,72, Former Pennsylvania Governor, 2002-2010
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« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2015, 05:55:05 AM »

Wow. That is an old cabinet.
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« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2015, 12:08:53 PM »

Old by age and old by nature and very stale and old in ideas
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2015, 12:54:53 PM »

Isn't Biden on the Clinton 'list' for endorsing Obama in 08
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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2015, 01:15:01 PM »

I quote myself from the last time this topic came up -

It will probably be some kind of dystopian nightmare with Mark Penn as the dictatorial Chief of Staff, Marc Rich's electrified corpse as Treasury Secretary and Terry McAuliffe as Secretary of State or something. Doug Schoen will be a feared and powerful senior advisor.

Add James Carville as Ambassador to the United Nations, Anthony Weiner as Chief of Staff to First Lady Bill Clinton, given the recent revelations, Mitt Romney as a close advisor to President Hillary, Doug Band as Attorney General.
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2015, 04:33:49 PM »

""6.Energy, Angus King, former Maine Governor, former Pres. Northeastern Energy Management Inc""

Thanks for the Senate seat
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