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Brigham Young University
 
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Texas A&M University
 
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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: January 30, 2015, 09:30:39 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young_University

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_A%26M_University
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2015, 09:46:45 PM »

BYU easily...as fitting with Provo.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2015, 10:12:45 PM »


Texas A&M is pretty conservative though. It originally required military training for its students, and it still has many ties to the military. And its student body is heavily dominated by white evangelicals. Plus, it is Texas. 

I think the kind of conservatives you'd encounter at Texas A&M are more emblematic of contemporary American conservatism than those at BYU-even though BYU is obviously extremely conservative.  I guess it depends on who you see as more "conservative": Southern white evangelicals or Utah Mormons.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 06:26:06 AM »

I think the kind of conservatives you'd encounter at Texas A&M are more emblematic of contemporary American conservatism than those at BYU-even though BYU is obviously extremely conservative.  I guess it depends on who you see as more "conservative": Southern white evangelicals or Utah Mormons.

Evangelicalism, even white evangelicalism is a bigger tent politically than Mormonism. While I'm sure BYU is more conservative than Texas A&M, its definitely possible to come up with a more conservative set  of Evangelicals. e.g. Bob Jones U
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 08:53:10 AM »

BYU is the correct answer.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 09:18:34 AM »

This is basically sort of decent conservatives vs. Horrible conservatives. As funny as Manziel is, the Mormon stereotype of compassion is what I used to view as true conservatism. I now realize there is obviously a much larger portion of the a&m type of Conservative out there but I will never think of them as real conservatives. They may vote that way but I doubt they uphold the values.

Plus, doesn't BYU expel those who have premarital relations?
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 10:06:25 PM »

This is basically sort of decent conservatives vs. Horrible conservatives. As funny as Manziel is, the Mormon stereotype of compassion is what I used to view as true conservatism. I now realize there is obviously a much larger portion of the a&m type of Conservative out there but I will never think of them as real conservatives. They may vote that way but I doubt they uphold the values.

Plus, doesn't BYU expel those who have premarital relations?

It's usually a true stereotype that,...and yes yes it does.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 10:30:21 PM »

It kind of depends on what kind of conservatism you're referring to.

If conservatism means strict adherence to tradition and deference societal institutions, it's indisputably BYU. Most of its students and faculty are members of the LDS Church, which is arguably the anchor of Utah society, and faithfully follow its doctrines regarding things like missionary work and the promotion of early marriage and large families.

If conservatism means Right populism with the end goal of ensuring that a privileged group in society maintains said privilege, then A&M is the winner. Aggies are not "conservative" in their behavior in the way BYU students are - they can drink anyone under the table and aren't partaking of any less sex and drugs than their liberal adversaries in Austin are. But A&M is very much about preserving the "good old boy" network in Texas -- the reason you'll probably see a lot of maroon-colored paraphernalia in the executive suites of many a Houston oil company. They're the Rick Perry to BYU's Mitt Romney.

I'd argue that they're both about equally conservative in their own respective ways. BYU represents, to put it in a Forum context, a "DC Al" sort of conservatism that is about adhering to established rules and morals. A&M offers up more of a "Cathcon" conservatism that involves white males engaging in law-breaking, libertine behavior while defending their white male privilege.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 03:09:12 PM »

It kind of depends on what kind of conservatism you're referring to.

If conservatism means strict adherence to tradition and deference societal institutions, it's indisputably BYU. Most of its students and faculty are members of the LDS Church, which is arguably the anchor of Utah society, and faithfully follow its doctrines regarding things like missionary work and the promotion of early marriage and large families.

If conservatism means Right populism with the end goal of ensuring that a privileged group in society maintains said privilege, then A&M is the winner. Aggies are not "conservative" in their behavior in the way BYU students are - they can drink anyone under the table and aren't partaking of any less sex and drugs than their liberal adversaries in Austin are. But A&M is very much about preserving the "good old boy" network in Texas -- the reason you'll probably see a lot of maroon-colored paraphernalia in the executive suites of many a Houston oil company. They're the Rick Perry to BYU's Mitt Romney.

I'd argue that they're both about equally conservative in their own respective ways. BYU represents, to put it in a Forum context, a "DC Al" sort of conservatism that is about adhering to established rules and morals. A&M offers up more of a "Cathcon" conservatism that involves white males engaging in law-breaking, libertine behavior while defending their white male privilege.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2015, 04:09:28 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2015, 04:11:20 PM by sex-negative feminist prude »

I'd agree with PR, and I was saying this to him on Facebook recently, that BYU is more conservative while A&M is more representative of contemporary American conservatism, obscene and shockingly conspicuous hypocrisy included.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 09:43:07 PM »

Then which would be closer to JCL conservatism
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2015, 09:50:09 PM »


Neither. Write-in Hillsdale College.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2015, 09:56:21 PM »

I'd argue that they're both about equally conservative in their own respective ways. BYU represents, to put it in a Forum context, a "DC Al" sort of conservatism that is about adhering to established rules and morals.

I get my own brand of conservatism? I feel special Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2015, 02:31:09 PM »

BYU considerably, but the distinctions drawn between each's brand of conservatism are also true
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