When do you plan on endorsing Hillary Clinton for President?

[Oak Hills]

I will probably endorse Bernie in the primaries, and whomever the Greens run in the general.

[Mr. Smith]

Before the DNC, should she be nominated and not lose to a member of the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party in the primaries.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Last option.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

If she wins the nomination, I'll probably vote for her.  I might go third party, though (but that was always an option anyways).

[RR1997]

It depends on who the GOP frontrunner is.

[The Mikado]

I will never "endorse" her. I will vote for her...very begrudgingly.

[The Dowager Mod]

8 years ago.

[MATTROSE94]

It depends on who the GOP frontrunner is.

[King]

I just realized I forgot to include an option for people planning to endorse Hillary between the DNC adn the 1st Presidential Debate. My apologies.

[DemPGH]

For me, reality dictates that I'll begin supporting her sometime between when she announces and I am completely confident that anyone else would be too risky. So, probably right after she announces.

[traininthedistance]

When she clinches the nomination.  Earlier if the sacrificial lambs running against her are more Randall Terry than Bill Bradley.

[Bacon King]

#ready4hillary

[Free Bird]

It depends on who the GOP frontrunner is.

[Free Bird]

It's so cute that some of you think she'll win the Presidency.

Hilldawg’s strength is overrated, but honestly who’s going to beat her.  Scott Walker?  Adorable

Who'll beat her? Some no name freshman senator? Adorable

[IceSpear]

It's so cute that some of you think she'll win the Presidency.

Hilldawg’s strength is overrated, but honestly who’s going to beat her.  Scott Walker?  Adorable

Who'll beat her? Some no name freshman senator? Adorable

I think you mean the guy who gave the 2004 DNC keynote address and was widely speculated as a future presidential contender from that moment on. The myth that Obama was a nobody who emerged out of obscurity is quite pervasive it seems.

[politicallefty]

I already have. If she runs, she will have my vote in both the primary and the general election.

[Free Bird]

It's so cute that some of you think she'll win the Presidency.

Hilldawg’s strength is overrated, but honestly who’s going to beat her.  Scott Walker?  Adorable

Who'll beat her? Some no name freshman senator? Adorable

I think you mean the guy who gave the 2004 DNC keynote address and was widely speculated as a future presidential contender from that moment on. The myth that Obama was a nobody who emerged out of obscurity is quite pervasive it seems.

BUT. Everyone, even with Obama in, expected Shillary to be the nominee in 2008.

[Tender Branson]

Probably never.

If she has a decent lead a few days before the election, I'd even vote for Jill Stein (Green Party).

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

It's so cute that some of you think she'll win the Presidency.

Hilldawg’s strength is overrated, but honestly who’s going to beat her.  Scott Walker?  Adorable

Who'll beat her? Some no name freshman senator? Adorable

I think you mean the guy who gave the 2004 DNC keynote address and was widely speculated as a future presidential contender from that moment on. The myth that Obama was a nobody who emerged out of obscurity is quite pervasive it seems.

BUT. Everyone, even with Obama in, expected Shillary to be the nominee in 2008.

Can you explain this little portmanteau to me Hawk? It looks like you're combining "shrill" and "Hillary," the former historically being a sexist pejorative used against women.

On your actual point: Hillary was never 100% expected to be the nominee in 2008. For most of 2007, Obama was outraising her and iirc she never went above 50% on Intrade.

[Lief 🗽]

Yeah I have no idea where this "Clinton was inevitable in 2008 story line" is coming from. Like Nagas said, Obama frequently out-raised her. She was generally doing no better than tied in Iowa (with Edwards) and New Hampshire (with Obama). A lot of people thought that once the anti-Clinton voted consolidated after Edwards or Obama dropped out, the remaining one would defeat Clinton.

[IceSpear]

Yeah I have no idea where this "Clinton was inevitable in 2008 story line" is coming from. Like Nagas said, Obama frequently out-raised her. She was generally doing no better than tied in Iowa (with Edwards) and New Hampshire (with Obama). A lot of people thought that once the anti-Clinton voted consolidated after Edwards or Obama dropped out, the remaining one would defeat Clinton.

It's a retrospective narrative conjured up by the media based off no empirical evidence. It's not hard to see why. "David beats Goliath" sounds a lot more interesting than "Guy in strong second place defeats frontrunner."

[King]

Yeah I have no idea where this "Clinton was inevitable in 2008 story line" is coming from. Like Nagas said, Obama frequently out-raised her. She was generally doing no better than tied in Iowa (with Edwards) and New Hampshire (with Obama). A lot of people thought that once the anti-Clinton voted consolidated after Edwards or Obama dropped out, the remaining one would defeat Clinton.

And in 2006, most of the threads on here had everyone believing Mark Warner or Evan Bayh would be the nominee.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Who, on 02/07/2007, seriously thought Obama was going to win?

[Lief 🗽]

Who, on 02/07/2007, seriously thought Obama was going to win?

The proper question is who, on 2/07/2007, seriously thought Clinton was going to lose. And many, many people did.

[IceSpear]

Who, on 02/07/2007, seriously thought Obama was going to win?

Here's the betting markets following Obama's declaration:

Obama near record high.

DOWN: Clinton, Dodd
UP: Obama, Edwards

Democrats
Clinton 48.6
Obama 21.5
Edwards 13.5
Gore 9.6
Richardson 2.6
Biden 1.1
Vilsack 1.0
Clark 0.8
Warner 0.6
Dodd 0.2

Another myth that needs to die: "NOBODY gave the junior Senator from Illinois even a 1% chance!!11!!!!1!!1!!"