Electoral Reform Amendment (Passed)

[Cranberry]

Hmmm,
Why not a system that would allocate the seats in term of party representation, with a 2/3 majority needed? That would be more representative than this current system.

What do you have with your party representation fetish here? If the Federalists want representation in redistricting, they should win gubernatorial elections. As simple as that.
This system is the most representative there is.

[windjammer]

Please tell me how giving the control of redistricting to one party (that won't always be the same) is representative.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Party victories at the regional level are indicative of voter preferences at te regional level. It is no different than how we let the regions elect regional senators. I admit the districting system could let some parties stack the deck in favour of themselves if they control many regions, but that's the nature of the game, and I think this senate is currently capable of closing some loopholes and making it more difficult for the system to run itself into the ground. That being said, I think this move would make regional elections more important and more competitive, which would be good for the game. So let's not add too many training wheels here. I also think it would make the senate elections more interesting themselves, too. So I would certainly support the spirit of the change. I just think we need to fix up the particulars.

And I think allocating some sort of party quota would pretty much erase all the benefits that this system would otherwise bring.

[Senator Cris]

This is my amendment:

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Article V, Section II, Subsection VI is hereby amended to read:

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Changes:

"representatives of the five Governors" --> "five Governors"
I removed "becoming valid at August election".
At the part on the equality of districts in population, I added "or with a difference of a maximum of 1 voter." because an equality can be impossible.
I added a new point, 4., in case that the Senate rejects the commission's plan.

I know that these changes can't be enough for some of you, but we need to work to improve this and I hope that my amendment will pass.

[bore]

Senates have 36 hours to object to Senator Cris's amendment

[rpryor03]

I'd like to thank everyone for their comments. I support Senator Cris's amendment.

[Adam Griffin]

Why are we using a different standard for drawing the boundaries than what was discussed with FTRA (unanimous consent of panel; if panel is deadlocked, DoFE gets to draw)? We're putting all of the Senators in effect into a regional-based system. Have we not learned yet that this method is an abject failure? Anyone who supported FTRA and/or consolidation in general should automatically be against this, as it's a complete reversal of what that was attempting to accomplish.

[TNF]

I object to the amendment.

[Senator Cris]

I object to the amendment.

Why?

[bore]

Senators a vote is now open on Cris's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

[Senator Cris]

Aye

[windjammer]

Aye,
Would still oppose the current version but this is an improvement.

[Cranberry]

Aye,
Would still oppose the current version but this is an improvement.

[TNF]

Nay

[bore]

Aye

[Lief 🗽]

Aye

[windjammer]

Thak you Cris for this amendment. With the former version, gerrymander would have been even uglier, do you imagine a "district" compose of Texas and NY for example?

[SWE]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE FTR

Though I am still leaning nay on the underlying legislation as of right now.

[bore]

By a vote of 7-1 Cris's amendment has been adopted

Aye: Bore, Yankee, SWE, Windjammer, Cris, Cranberry, Lief

Nay: TNF

Not Voting: Polnut, BK

[windjammer]

Maybe 3 voters instead of 1?

[bore]

Proposing an amendment here, basically this suggest the obviously non partisan SOFE draws the lines if there is a deadlock, and changes the census used so it's not 12 months out of date when the maps are drawn.

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Article V, Section II, Subsection VI is hereby amended to read:

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Senators have 36 hours to object to this amendment

[TNF]

I object.

[bore]

Senators a vote is now open on bore's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I guess AYE