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« on: February 10, 2015, 06:04:49 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2015, 07:40:31 PM »
I guess this acceptable.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2015, 01:43:25 AM »
Increase it to $15, no exception to tipped employees, and I'm on board.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2015, 08:25:30 AM »
The exception for tipped employees was removed by previous legislation.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 07:34:51 PM »
This is really reasonable.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 09:41:03 PM »
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The exception for tipped employees was removed by previous legislation.

Yes, but they are on a seperate minimum wage schedule, one that presently ihas them set to be higher then the minimum wage for the rest of the work force. The concern I have, is that employers will just stop giving tips and maybe that is desirable, I don't know.

I would be fine with giving tipped employees the same treatment as other employees provided they are put on the same tract as the others.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 10:21:38 PM »
I am assuming that the present minimum wage is higher than stated (in past legislation) $12.50 based on the adjustments. If it is four percent as stated elswhere, then it is probably around 13.00 by now. The increase to 14 is about 7.5% increase, but the increase to $15 is about a 15% jump. An increase of 7.5% is risky, but a 15% jump is substantial when considering the potential negative impacts. I am willing to compromise elsewhere, but I cannot support going to $15.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2015, 05:13:38 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2015, 11:01:29 AM »
We could always take the middle way to take it to $14,50?

But yes, I am in general supportive of this.

Quote from: Senator North Carolina Yankee on February 11, 2015, 09:41:03 PM
Yes, but they are on a seperate minimum wage schedule, one that presently ihas them set to be higher then the minimum wage for the rest of the work force. The concern I have, is that employers will just stop giving tips and maybe that is desirable, I don't know.

I would be fine with giving tipped employees the same treatment as other employees provided they are put on the same tract as the others.

I have the least problem to let the practice of basically mandatory tipping expire, just the same way as in every other country on the planet.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2015, 12:49:48 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 02:30:33 AM »
I must object unfortunately.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2015, 06:33:42 PM »
Sorry, I missed this

Senators a vote is now open on TNF's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 08:32:01 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 08:42:36 AM »
Aye

This is a decent compromise amendment. Workers get a wage increase and tipped employment gets done away with.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2015, 08:42:56 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2015, 11:03:47 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2015, 01:17:33 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2015, 09:46:34 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2015, 02:33:35 PM »
Aye.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2015, 03:52:48 PM »
Given that inflation means 15 dollars in atlasia is less than 15 dollars in america, this shouldn't lead to too many redundancies, and will also lead to a much improved standard of living for millions of people.

On balance (which is what all minimum wage choices must be decided upon), AYE
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2015, 06:17:38 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2015, 03:00:09 PM »
By a vote of 5-2-1 TNF's amendment has been adopted

Aye: Bore, Lief, SWE, TNF, Cranberry

Nay: Yankee, Cris

Abstain: Windjammer

Not Voting: BK, Polnut

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2015, 09:43:40 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2015, 11:57:26 AM »
Senators have 36 hours to object to TNF's amendment
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2015, 11:48:08 PM »
I object.

Didn't you already pass legislation on interns achieving the same objectives?
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