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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2015, 10:55:20 PM »

I have mixed feelings about abolishing the Senate. I disagree with people saying/implying that abolishing the Senate is "insane"; it's not like unicameralism is a radical or even untested concept. Of course, the Senate will never abolished, but the idea itself isn't crazy.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2015, 02:47:49 PM »

I can't think of any argument against getting rid of the Senate.
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2015, 06:13:42 PM »

No. The Senate slows everything down to a crawl and keeps government foolishness at a minimal. It does not nearly keep enough foolish down but it does an okay job at it. If anything we should ONLY have the Senate because then gridlock would make governing almost impossible.
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2015, 06:44:47 PM »

The Senate is barely functional, and as such a fantastic stumbling bloc against sudden waves of radicalism.

This and the Supreme Court are probably the two reasons this country is so stable when it comes to maintaining democracy.
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2015, 07:55:30 PM »

Just implement the Alternative Vote and things will be alot better. Maybe add in some major campaign finance reform.
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2015, 10:35:48 PM »

Not with a FPTP House that is capped at 435..............
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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2015, 02:52:06 AM »

Yes. Arbitrary and artificial geographic entities should not have representation. Only people should have representation.
What kind of representation system would you support? 535 at-large seats?

Yeah, basically. I guess I would be fine with the senate if all states were an equal population (and the filibuster were abolished), but that's obviously not happening.
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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2015, 08:44:16 PM »

I think the Senate just makes sense. The President and House are elected (in theory) based on population. Eliminating the Senate creates a system far too similar to a Parliament where the leader tends to be the party with the majority/plurality in the legislature. There is no real way of avoiding tyranny of the majority.
I do think, though, that Senators should only serve four years (one from each state elected during Presidential election years and the other during midterms).
And, like many have suggested here, the House should use PR (preferably Mixed Member Proportional).
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2015, 12:29:30 AM »

Not abolished, but it certainly needs to be reformed. End the asinine practice of a single Senator being able to hold up nominations and bills. Revert back to the talking filibuster.

The Senate has essentially become supermajoritarian. And people wonder why nothing gets done anymore.
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