If you were raised Mormon, would you have converted to whatever you are now?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 19, 2024, 05:06:09 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Forum Community
  Forum Community (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, YE, KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸)
  If you were raised Mormon, would you have converted to whatever you are now?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Poll
Question: If you were raised Mormon, would you have converted to whatever you are now?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
I am a Mormon
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 28

Author Topic: If you were raised Mormon, would you have converted to whatever you are now?  (Read 2129 times)
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,949
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: February 16, 2015, 09:49:48 AM »

Yes. I think I'd be a hipster Christian today if born in the US no matter what I was raised.
Logged
Mr. Smith
MormDem
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,173
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 09:54:25 AM »

Option 3
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 10:03:20 AM »

Hipster Christianity is at least (marginally?) less obviously a scam and cult than Mormonism but as with most of your polls on such topics I dread considering the hypothetical.
Logged
windjammer
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,512
France


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 10:25:31 AM »

No.
Too traditionnal to have an another religion.
Logged
Sprouts Farmers Market ✘
Sprouts
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,763
Italy


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: 1.74

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 10:31:14 AM »

Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 10:32:31 AM »

Unknowable (literally normal).
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,949
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 10:54:57 AM »


Seriously? If opebo was still here he'd obviously say he'd still be an atheist and it's hard to see ANYONE disagreeing with that. For just one example.
Logged
MATTROSE94
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,803
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -6.43

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 11:03:02 AM »

Yes. I think I'd be a hipster Christian today if born in the US no matter what I was raised.
What exactly is Hipster Christianity?
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,949
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2015, 11:07:46 AM »

Described here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=207485.msg4489504#msg4489504
Logged
Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck
HockeyDude
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,376
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2015, 11:35:05 AM »

Yea, I would've become an atheist regardless of being raised Mormon. 
Logged
RI
realisticidealist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,764


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: 2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 01:32:49 PM »

These threads are stupid.
Logged
Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,096
United States


Political Matrix
E: 5.29, S: -5.04


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 01:37:50 PM »

Logged
Mr. Smith
MormDem
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,173
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2015, 02:15:24 PM »

Hipster Christianity is at least (marginally?) less obviously a scam and cult than Mormonism but as with most of your polls on such topics I dread considering the hypothetical.

Oldiesfreak post of the week! Excellently done Stan Marsh.

And just like Stan Marsh, you'd do well to grow up....there was something else said at the end of that episode, but I won't go there.
Logged
King
intermoderate
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,356
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »

My agnosticism was allowed by my parents being very lax at sending me to Catholic mass, buying me a home computer with internet to be inquisitive before even my school had internet, and encouraging me to be inquisitive by calling me smart all the time and putting pressure on me to live up to that title. So I never really cared deeply about being Catholic and was plenty open to other ideas.

If I had been born to say, the parents of my childhood friend Anthony, who was forced to attend church every Sunday and even do confessions to the priest regularly and taught to shoot a gun when he was 9 and now works at REI to pay for his hunting vacations, I would be a completely different person
Logged
MATTROSE94
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,803
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -6.43

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 03:37:32 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hipster Christianity is pretty much a type of Christianity popular with people born from the 1980s onward that focuses on social justice and fighting against social injustices through the message of Christianity. In addition, it also seems to be more moderate on social issues such as gay marriage.
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,949
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2015, 05:32:54 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hipster Christianity is pretty much a type of Christianity popular with people born from the 1980s onward that focuses on social justice and fighting against social injustices through the message of Christianity. In addition, it also seems to be more moderate on social issues such as gay marriage.

That's kind of true, but if you drop the "popular with people born from the 1980s onward" part you could just as easily describe the mainline churches. Also important to keep out it's more of an evangelical flair (which is part of what makes it notable, since liberal evangelicals are far less common than liberal mainliners), and tries to focus on more "modern" and "non-traditional" things that you wouldn't associate with church, like those videos I mentioned, things like being asked to text the pastor questions during the sermon to be answered at the end or tweet your reaction on your phone with a specific hashtag, or the unique way of doing communion I mentioned a bit ago.
Logged
Badger
badger
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,316
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2015, 05:38:44 PM »

Considering I was born and raised Catholic but converted to mainline Protestantism as an adult, it stands to reason I probably would've converted from Mormonism too. But that of course leaves a ton of variables about personality development open to chance.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2015, 07:26:15 PM »


Seriously? If opebo was still here he'd obviously say he'd still be an atheist and it's hard to see ANYONE disagreeing with that. For just one example.

Yes. Seriously. We might strongly suspect that, but we would, by definition, not know it, nor even really be able to corroborate our opinions.
Logged
DC Al Fine
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,085
Canada


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2015, 07:56:21 PM »

I'd probably stay in Mormonism, but I could see myself winding up in Catholicism if I wasn't raised in the Reformed faith.
Logged
© tweed
Miamiu1027
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,562
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2015, 10:09:57 PM »

this is cult of the individual at its highest.  you have no "essence".  you are nothing more than what you've been subjected to.
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,949
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2015, 11:38:29 AM »

Considering I was born and raised Catholic but converted to mainline Protestantism as an adult, it stands to reason I probably would've converted from Mormonism too. But that of course leaves a ton of variables about personality development open to chance.

Thanks for sharing that actually, good real life counter to the people I've seen here who basically say no one EVER converts from Catholicism because CULTURE and all that stuff. Which is very demonstratably untrue.


Seriously? If opebo was still here he'd obviously say he'd still be an atheist and it's hard to see ANYONE disagreeing with that. For just one example.

Yes. Seriously. We might strongly suspect that, but we would, by definition, not know it, nor even really be able to corroborate our opinions.

OK but can we agree that it's most likely (by a wide margin) that opebo would be an atheist even if he had been raised Mormon...or anything for that matter? I doubt anyone would dispute that. If not 100% certainty than at least 99%.
Logged
World politics is up Schmitt creek
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2015, 12:58:01 PM »

Considering I was born and raised Catholic but converted to mainline Protestantism as an adult, it stands to reason I probably would've converted from Mormonism too. But that of course leaves a ton of variables about personality development open to chance.

Thanks for sharing that actually, good real life counter to the people I've seen here who basically say no one EVER converts from Catholicism because CULTURE and all that stuff. Which is very demonstratably untrue.

That's a straw man. It isn't what anybody's claiming. It's that in some countries and some time periods, which don't really include the contemporary United States, that's a lot less common.

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Seriously? If opebo was still here he'd obviously say he'd still be an atheist and it's hard to see ANYONE disagreeing with that. For just one example.
[/quote]

Yes. Seriously. We might strongly suspect that, but we would, by definition, not know it, nor even really be able to corroborate our opinions.
[/quote]

OK but can we agree that it's most likely (by a wide margin) that opebo would be an atheist even if he had been raised Mormon...or anything for that matter? I doubt anyone would dispute that. If not 100% certainty than at least 99%.
[/quote]

Eh, maybe more like 85% or 90%, sure. I really do think you're overstating nature as opposed to nurture here.
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,080
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2015, 01:00:24 PM »

Logged
Chunk Yogurt for President!
CELTICEMPIRE
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,235
Georgia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2015, 01:27:43 PM »

I have a feeling that I'd have converted to Evangelical Christianity at some point.
Logged
Associate Justice PiT
PiT (The Physicist)
Atlas Politician
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,169
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2015, 01:59:04 PM »

     I can't fathom how different my outlook on life might be if I were raised in a religious fashion, so I can't really answer that.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.053 seconds with 13 queries.