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ingemann
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« on: February 17, 2015, 04:45:45 PM »

I think MRA's who complain about stuff like this are being frivolous. "Don't hit girls" exists as a thing because women, on average, physically weaker and men fighting men is more of a natural thing, whereas men beating up on women is less so.

The real issues that hurt men are unjust laws in regard to divorce, child custody, and child support, as well as a disturbing trend towards ostracizing and punishing people based on the mere accusation of rape, no matter how baseless or problematic the accuser's story is. Feminists support and push all of these things, so no feminism isn't any kind of solution.

Seeing as feminism have been the major factor in giving women the vote, banning husband from being legal allowed to beat and rape their wife, removing anti-women disciminating factors, how far do you suggest we should push women right back?
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 05:11:15 PM »

I think MRA's who complain about stuff like this are being frivolous. "Don't hit girls" exists as a thing because women, on average, physically weaker and men fighting men is more of a natural thing, whereas men beating up on women is less so.

The real issues that hurt men are unjust laws in regard to divorce, child custody, and child support, as well as a disturbing trend towards ostracizing and punishing people based on the mere accusation of rape, no matter how baseless or problematic the accuser's story is. Feminists support and push all of these things, so no feminism isn't any kind of solution.

Seeing as feminism have been the major factor in giving women the vote, banning husband from being legal allowed to beat and rape their wife, removing anti-women disciminating factors, how far do you suggest we should push women right back?
Um, what? Are you seriously accusing me of supporting wife beating and rape? I'm suggesting that we should reform divorce and child support laws...your post is just a ridiculous strawman.

Wanting no feminism are a ridiculous strawman or a sign of a complete lack of historical knowledge, and we don't need to further back than 1993, when there was still American states which didn't recognised that a man could rape his wife. It's not the far past, it's relative new development that we recognise maritial rape as rape. So no it's not a strawman. It's a very legitime question, when did you think that feminism had gone to far?
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 06:19:48 PM »

If they can neutralize the Dworkinites, then yes. But modern Tumblr/Jezebel neo-feminism is just recreational outrage more than anything else. Stop all the nonsense about "micro-aggressions" and start focusing on actual things that matter in real life.

Somebody saying "man up" is not sexism. Many modern neo-feminists are some of the most privileged human beings to have ever existed in human history. They are mostly upper middle class white college graduates who make a living basically talking down to working class men, and women who don't share their views. Being offended by literally every little thing isn't getting them anywhere.

Basically if they can knock off the lynch mob mentality then we might have something we can work with.

The problem is that mainstream feminists can't stop complete man haters from calling themselves feminists, and giving up the name would give the terrible people the name which generations of women used, while they fought for their rights to be treated as human beings.
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