Rudy Giuliani: Obama doesn't love America

[Suburbia]

Remember Rudy won a landslide in 1997. He won Staten Island, Bay Ridge, all areas of NYC that will be crucial in the 2016 elections.

[RFayette]

Remember Rudy won a landslide in 1997. He won Staten Island, Bay Ridge, all areas of NYC that will be crucial in the 2016 elections.

Are you trolling?  I sure hope so...........

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Translation: Obama is black.

[Maxwell]

Rudy Giuliani is a vampire. He may love America, but he loves Transylvania more.

[anvi]

Giuliani's upbringing was much better.  His dad was involved with organized crime and convicted for assault and robbery?  Of course, that was because his dad loved America. 






 

[DrScholl]

A message for Rudy

[Ebowed]

Rudy who?

Some guy who didn't get any delegates in the 2008 Republican primaries.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Rudy who?

Some guy who didn't get any delegates in the 2008 Republican primaries.

Now, now, he got one hypothetical $62 million delegate.

[Likely Voter]

Rudy says he can question Obama's patriotism because 9/11
http://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-defends-comments-on-obamas-patriotism-he-didnt-live-through-911-i-did/

[MaxQue]

Well, he is an expert on not being loved by Americans. He knows about that he is talking.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Rudy says he can question Obama's patriotism because 9/11
http://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-defends-comments-on-obamas-patriotism-he-didnt-live-through-911-i-did/

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[IceSpear]

Rudy says he can question Obama's patriotism because 9/11
http://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-defends-comments-on-obamas-patriotism-he-didnt-live-through-911-i-did/

Still proving Joe Biden right 7 years later.

[ElectionsGuy]

Not surprising.

[SWE]

Pretty obvious stuff. Obama loves countries like Denmark and would love the US to be more like them.

Most sane people would love the US to be more like Denmark.

At least Democratic voters are open about wanting a socialist economy.  I respect that.  If only the politicians had those kinda of guts.

There is no "socialist economy" in Denmark.

Fine, combination of a capitalist economy (needed to survive) and a welfare state.  They're well on their way.

lmao

[Brittain33]

The White House is epically trolling Giuliani in return.

[pbrower2a]

Pretty obvious stuff. Obama loves countries like Denmark and would love the US to be more like them.

Most sane people would love the US to be more like Denmark.

And the average American would gain a lot more from that than through whether the President loves America or not.

Great. Let's have America be more like the country that Germany invaded in two months.

I've said it before, he's not the head of the U.N. He's the President of the United States. Where's his thoughts on American exceptionalism? Where's his Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, Reagan moments?

Hitler could have taken over Rhode Island in similar time if it were an independent republic. So what it it is small. Hitler took much longer to get mauled in the Soviet Union -- does anyone want to imitate the Soviet Union?

The United States is not as exceptional as it used to be. There was a time when American was the first country (and hence the only country) in which high-school education was the norm.  There was a time when America had the world's strongest industrial base because it hadn't been ravaged by the Luftwaffe, the Army Air Corps, or the Royal Air Force or looted by Soviet occupiers. That is past.  

Without objectivity people make bad decisions -- often catastrophically-bad decisions.

[publicunofficial]

There are people on this forum that actually believe Rudy Giuliani would beat Bill de Blasio in a race for NYC mayor.

[Mr. Illini]

Rudy who?

[Reaganfan]

Kyle Smith of the NY Post had a great article on this whole situation:

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

Rudy Giuliani thinks President Obama doesn’t love America. That’s not true. Obama surely loves America, though not the actual existing country. He is head-over-heels gaga for a fictional America, a notional America, an enlightened America, America with an asterisk.

Whenever Obama praises America, especially in foreign lands, he is careful to append caveats that make it clear America should, as he once said in another context, get off its high horse. He doesn’t apologize, exactly, but he makes it clear that his overall image of America is of a morally shrunken, chastened land whose sins render it unfit to exert much authority in the world.

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

Obama’s famous view of American exceptionalism — “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism” — is curiously qualified: When you ask a mom whether she thinks her baby is cute, you expect to hear, “Of course!” not a reflection on the nature of subjectivity.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”

Excellent points. I wish Rudy could have phrased it more in that way.

[TJ in Oregon]

Walker had the right response to this: I don't know; ask Obama.

The fact that such a vague and pointless argument about whether the president "loves America in the same sense as you and I" is actually driving the media narrative right now is absurd. This is in Mitt Romney's dog category, actually it's worse than that; Mitt Romney actually had a real, physical, tangible dog, one that could be defined, took up space, etc. This is all an argument about absolutely nothing.

[afleitch]

This is all an argument about absolutely nothing.

Which has been the GOP's entire strategy since about 1994.

[publicunofficial]

The Neocon definition of "Loves America" is "Sees no faults with and doesn't want to change anything about America"

[pbrower2a]

The Neocon definition of "Loves America" is "Sees no faults with and doesn't want to change anything about America"

...and that America can do nothing really wrong except to reject neo-liberal economics, neo-con foreign policy, and resolute  acceptance of Protestant fundamentalism as the dominant religion.

We can err. We can err. We can err.

I have thus shown my 'contempt' for America by the criteria that Giuliani and Walker have.