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« on: February 19, 2015, 09:32:02 AM »

https://jasonkander.com
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2015, 09:39:41 AM »

Don't know why he wants to ruin a promising career by running such an uphill race
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2015, 12:10:10 PM »


If 2016 continues the pattern of the last 4 elections, he's guaranteed to perform respectably even if he doesn't win and parlay that into another election.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2015, 12:24:10 PM »

Endorsed. However, it's going to take a 2006-style wave to beat Blunt.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 01:05:24 PM »

It's a Secretary of State challenger for Senate. He'll lose.

RIP Carnahan
RIP Marshall
RIP Grimes
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2015, 01:15:24 PM »

This, and also he has some good political positions.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 01:15:53 PM »


If 2016 continues the pattern of the last 4 elections, he's guaranteed to perform respectably even if he doesn't win and parlay that into another election.
The race will be closer than 2010 but the turnout increase in presidential elections is not the magic wand many on this forum believe it will be, also downballot statewide office holders don't exactly have a great tack record in senate races
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2015, 02:05:15 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2015, 02:17:02 PM »

This is a better play than running for reelection, which wasn't guaranteed. This at least raises his statewide profile more than holding a low-key SOS job. Sort of like Grimes in reverse; she needs to recuperate her images some, so being SOS, a fairly non-partisan office, would be a good way to go about that.


It's a Secretary of State challenger for Senate. He'll lose.

RIP Carnahan
RIP Marshall
RIP Grimes

Tennant, too.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2015, 02:23:05 PM »

It's a Secretary of State challenger for Senate. He'll lose.

RIP Carnahan
RIP Marshall
RIP Grimes

Tennant, too.


Don't forget Brunner. She lost in the primary, though had she beat Fisher, she still would have lost to Portman in the general.

Also:

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2015, 02:31:53 PM »

Kander is a top notch recruit for this office. He probably loses by high single to low double digits though. But it looks better to oppose a potentially vulnerable Senator in a wave with someone competent than leaving the seat to be fought for by some dude.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2015, 03:03:42 PM »

This, and also he has some good political positions.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2015, 03:35:28 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2015, 04:37:35 PM »

Blunt is not that well liked here, and only won in 2010 because of the Republican wave. If Hillary is on top of the ticket, it will help Kander greatly with the increased turnout of white working-class voters, particularly in the southeastern part of the state, where Obama did so poorly both in the primary and general(s). That's probably what Kander is hoping for.

And yes, he is very cute Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2015, 04:48:35 PM »

Excellent news! It would've been depressing if Dems gave Blunt a free pass. He's not safe by any means. Hopefully Hillary contests Missouri, that will help Kander out as well. And besides, if Missouri is as deep red as many people seem to think solely because of Obama's 2012 margin (when he conceded the state from the beginning), then Kander's re-election wouldn't have been a lock anyway, so he might as well take the gamble.

Oh, and I concur with the cute comments.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2015, 04:53:24 PM »

Kander is a top notch recruit for this office. He probably loses by high single to low double digits though. But it looks better to oppose a potentially vulnerable Senator in a wave with someone competent than leaving the seat to be fought for by some dude.

I'm fairly confident even this early that this will be a single digit race. People really overestimate just how red is Missouri is. Had Obama contested the state, he probably would've cut the margin by a few points. Hillary plays better than Obama there, and there were tons of Romney/Nixon/McCaskill voters anyway. Nevertheless, Blunt is obviously the favorite for now.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2015, 05:02:59 PM »

Kander is a top notch recruit for this office. He probably loses by high single to low double digits though. But it looks better to oppose a potentially vulnerable Senator in a wave with someone competent than leaving the seat to be fought for by some dude.

I'm fairly confident even this early that this will be a single digit race. People really overestimate just how red is Missouri is. Had Obama contested the state, he probably would've cut the margin by a few points. Hillary plays better than Obama there, and there were tons of Romney/Nixon/McCaskill voters anyway. Nevertheless, Blunt is obviously the favorite for now.
Polls showed mccaskill losing by more than Obama before Todd Akin happened so her crossover support from that election is exaggerated, Missouri while still somewhat swingy is trending red at a pretty fast pace given that Obama went from coming within a couple thousand votes to losing by double digits in four years. Kander is in the same position Carnahan was in years ago, he will probably come closer than she did but Blunt has a massive war chest and will be the first to define him
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2015, 05:08:28 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2015, 05:51:53 PM »

Great! Top Dem recruit. I think he's got the ability to draw support from across the state. His military experience and relatively non-partisan SOS tenure will serve him well. Kander does have an uphill battle, because Blunt probably won't hand Missouri Dems a win with some stupid comment. Blunt's a pretty powerful candidate. I do see Kander as having a shot if turnout is good. Also, Hillary's coattails will help and vice versa.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2015, 05:56:33 PM »

Good news for the senate. Blunt is generic R. Hopefully having Clinton as the presidential candidate can improve the party image among white moderates in that state while keeping black turnout good, which would give Kander a chance. Lean R to start with IMO.

I thought Kander would have preferred Gov? Is MO-Gov going a tougher election for democrats?
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2015, 05:59:03 PM »

Good news for the senate. Blunt is generic R. Hopefully having Clinton as the presidential candidate can improve the party image among white moderates in that state while keeping black turnout good, which would give Kander a chance. Lean R to start with IMO.

I thought Kander would have preferred Gov? Is MO-Gov going a tougher election for democrats?

Koster (the incumbent AG) is likely running for Gov.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2015, 06:00:37 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2015, 02:41:16 AM »

I'm glad he's running. He's got an uphill battle ahead of him (I'd call this race Likely R for now), but if he runs a good campaign, Blunt runs a mediocre campaign, and 2016 turns out to be a Democratic friendly year, he could just pull it off.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2015, 09:57:53 AM »

I've got a gut feeling that Jason Kander will lose to Roy Blunt despite having everything going for him.

Jason Kander should run for reelection and challenge Roy Blunt in 2022 or try to get elected governor and run against him at a later time.

It seems to be an "in" thing these days to get elected to a lower statewide office and run for the Senate or governor while still in your very first term.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2015, 01:29:07 PM »

MO isnt a top priority like OH, Pa, WI and IL. But, it is wave insurance. Should the Dems win those four, it can become the Dems 51st seat, or NH, or FL, as well.
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