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« on: February 20, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »

http://www.pollingreport.com/isis.htm

Support has been steadily rising.
September - 39%
Early October - 44%
Late October - 47%
February - 57%
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 12:23:26 PM »

Good to see the US public opinion is finally coming around to this. Hopefully Europeans will feel the same way.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 01:24:27 PM »

it is amazing how easily the public can be whipped up. who would've thought in, say, 2009, within 5-plus years they'd be able to get a solid majority in favor of yet another ground invasion of Iraq?
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 01:33:26 PM »

it is amazing how easily the public can be whipped up. who would've thought in, say, 2009, within 5-plus years they'd be able to get a solid majority in favor of yet another ground invasion of Iraq?

There are plenty of things people didn't know in 2009. Libertas still walked among us. Benghazi was only a word and, for those knowledgable enough, a city in Libya. Greece was going to default in the next six months. And etc.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 01:39:27 PM »

Fighting ISIS is actually a legitimate cause, unlike invading Iraq in 2003.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 02:41:23 PM »

Fighting ISIS is actually a legitimate cause, unlike invading Iraq in 2003.

US imperialism created a monster that will not be destroyed.  the leaders of "radical Islam" are stuck between glee and laughter.  Hell, there's even a bin Laden quote out there that details the strategy: suck the US into a bottomless pit as it hollows out from the inside.  we're well on the way.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 02:47:30 PM »

Definitely support this.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 02:49:39 PM »

I'm definitely with the 37% who don't support this.  We need to stop this, leave them to there own means.  Lets stop f**king it up and let them fix it the way they see fit.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 02:54:43 PM »

I'm pretty shocked Republicans are more supportive when Obama's name is mentioned in almost all these questions. I didn't realize that much militarism was still alive when the opposite party is in the White House.

I oppose as well, Jerry. I would be slightly more supportive of action in Nigeria seeing as there might be a realistic goal there.
Continue with the airstrikes against ISIS for now. I'm not sure they'll accomplish much, but it's only money and could save some.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 03:15:21 PM »

So now ground wars in Iraq are considered good again? Is this why warmonger Rice polled the best for US Senate in California? Make the stupid stop.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2015, 03:58:37 PM »

Fighting ISIS is actually a legitimate cause, unlike invading Iraq in 2003.

This. In a perfect world we could go back in time and never have gone into Iraq in the first place, but sadly that's not possible.

I'm not sure whether I support ground troops. If we do send them, it needs to be an international effort. This is no longer just the US's problem.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 04:02:42 PM »

Fighting ISIS is actually a legitimate cause, unlike invading Iraq in 2003.

This. In a perfect world we could go back in time and never have gone into Iraq in the first place, but sadly that's not possible.

I'm not sure whether I support ground troops. If we do send them, it needs to be an international effort. This is no longer just the US's problem.

this kind of stuff is why the ruling class is actually best served by the Democrats.  a Republican pulls this crap and liberals start asking uncomfortable questions about civilian deaths and displacement, and figures like Snowden are not fugitives but heroes.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 06:26:33 PM »

Its kind of unusual because there's usually a ~20 year period of people wanting interventionist or non-interventionist foreign policy. The non-interventionist part only lasted about 5 to 10 years. Its sort of amazing how propaganda can convince people that we need to spend tax dollars and sacrifice lives to fight terrorism (which will never go away) halfway around the globe.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 06:43:21 PM »

Good to see the US public opinion is finally coming around to this. Hopefully Europeans will feel the same way.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2015, 06:52:14 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2015, 06:54:02 PM by Comrade Funk »

The difference between ISIS and Iraq 2003 is that Iraq had no intention of attacking us. ISIS lonewolves and terrorist cells will continues to attack Western civilians, and we have to strike back. They truly believe they are in the endtimes. That being said, Arab nations such as Egypt and Jordan must participate in a ground war as well.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2015, 06:57:48 PM »

That 'Iraqistan Syndrome' didn't last all that long, did it? 
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2015, 07:06:53 PM »

The difference between ISIS and Iraq 2003 is that Iraq had no intention of attacking us. ISIS lonewolves and terrorist cells will continues to attack Western civilians, and we have to strike back. They truly believe they are in the endtimes. That being said, Arab nations such as Egypt and Jordan must participate in a ground war as well.

Do we actually know of any plots hatched by IS itself, as opposed to just "IS inspired lone wolves" who do their own thing in the name of IS?

And if this is really the issue, then why not also do a ground invasion of Yemen in order to take out AQAP?
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2015, 07:11:18 PM »

It is worth mentioning that the CNN poll below it has support at 47%. The main difference between the two polls is that the CBS question was preceded by one asking if IS was a threat. The CNN one was preceded by a question asking "how things are going".
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2015, 07:14:34 PM »


So deep, so radical, so different from all the other kids at school.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2015, 07:32:58 PM »

Depends on what one means by sending ground troops.   I can see sending special forces in for specific missions  and some FACs to help with air strikes, but beyond that I cannot.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2015, 09:07:25 PM »

I'm against ground troops. Still, an invasion of ISIS territory is far more justifiable than the 2003 invasion.
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2015, 09:11:44 PM »

I'm against ground troops. Still, an invasion of ISIS territory is far more justifiable than the 2003 invasion.

and the 2026 invasion will be yet more justifiable than this one.  and so on.  until one of these groups gets a nuke.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2015, 09:34:36 PM »

Fighting ISIS is actually a legitimate cause, unlike invading Iraq in 2003.

This. In a perfect world we could go back in time and never have gone into Iraq in the first place, but sadly that's not possible.

I'm not sure whether I support ground troops. If we do send them, it needs to be an international effort. This is no longer just the US's problem.
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2015, 10:20:16 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2015, 12:09:55 AM by MW Rep BaconBacon96 »

Oh the insanity.

Fighting ISIS on the ground will not make them go away. ISIS will simply return to being the guerrilla insurgency it was before last year. Meanwhile the lone wolf terrorism in the West will continue unabated.  What it will do is drive more civilians in these areas into the arms of ISIS, like it did the first time. ISIS wants another 'crusade', don't give it to them.

The US has to support the local government's efforts, not get anymore involved themselves.
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