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« on: February 20, 2015, 06:03:53 PM »
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Read more at http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/32792693-75/oregon-house-approves-automatic-voter-registration.html.csp

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Automatic voter registration passed the state house in 2013 but failed 15-15 in the then 16D-14R state senate when a Democratic state senator voted with Republicans against the bill. That state senator is still in office but the state senate is now 18D-12R after the 2014 elections so the bill's chances look pretty good. The new Governor has already announced support for it as she was the one pushing for it as Secretary of State.

Considering that Oregon is about 1.2% of the national population, a rough estimate is that this change (using DMV data to automatically register voters) would add 24 to 40 million new voters to the registration system if it was adopted nationwide.
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 06:10:25 PM »

Awesome. Now let's primary Betsy Johnson too.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 06:12:40 PM »

Can't wait to see the turnout in 2016 (assuming the ss with pass it)
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 07:54:48 PM »

Next stop, California.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 08:35:05 PM »

Freedom Bill!
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 08:46:36 PM »

RIP Oregon GOP.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 01:57:46 AM »

Y'know, if the Oregon GOP was decimated to the post of say, Hawaii's GOP or Utah's Dems, I wonder if the Greens could grab a legislative seat? It is Oregon after all.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 06:44:12 AM »

if the Oregon GOP was decimated to the post of say, Hawaii's GOP or Utah's Dems

Automatic registration doesn't make that big of a difference.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 01:09:59 PM »

About time.

Hopefully more states do the same, so that finally the 30-40 million unregistered eligible Americans are registered to vote.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 01:11:11 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 02:19:18 PM »

I think this is a great idea that should be adopted everywhere. Unfortunately, voter participation has become a partisan issue. Democrats want to expand voting rights, while Republicans invariably want to restrict voting rights as much as possible. Except for partisan reasons, I cannot see any reason as to why we should not be working to ensure that as many eligible voters vote as possible.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 03:12:47 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 03:21:30 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 03:24:35 PM »

This seems great for the Democrats until you realize North Dakota doesn't even require registration and is a pretty solid Republican state.

If Utah had automatic registration, it would still be Republican.  That doesn't mean they shouldn't do it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 03:26:26 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2015, 03:33:58 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

It's not necessarily that the majority of unregistered voters "don't care."  They might not entirely understand the connection between election results and impacts on their own lives, but that isn't necessarily their fault, either.  They might have other legitimate reasons for thinking that the options won't represent their views, also.  We have to give everybody the ability to participate, even the apathetic, as otherwise it undermines the integrity of the process.

A government where 65% of adults aren't voting is not a government that is receptive to any public interests.  It's not that these people don't have opinions about the way this country should be run.  They obviously do.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2015, 03:36:55 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

It's not necessarily that the majority of unregistered voters "don't care."  They might not entirely understand the connection between election results and impacts on their own lives, but that isn't necessarily their fault, either.  They might have other legitimate reasons for thinking that the options won't represent their views, also.  We have to give everybody the ability to participate, even the apathetic, as otherwise it undermines the integrity of the process.

A government where 65% of adults aren't voting is not a government that is receptive to any public interests.  It's not that these people don't have opinions about the way this country should be run.  They obviously do.
Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2015, 03:39:28 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

But that line of thinking is fundamentally undemocratic. If you think uninformed people shouldn't vote, why not reinstate literacy tests? If you accept the principle of universal suffrage, you cannot view the fact that certain people don't vote as a positive thing.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2015, 03:46:40 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

But that line of thinking is fundamentally undemocratic. If you think uninformed people shouldn't vote, why not reinstate literacy tests? If you accept the principle of universal suffrage, you cannot view the fact that certain people don't vote as a positive thing.
We don't live with universal suffrage, felons and the underaged can't vote as well as non-citizens, and mandated voting could lead to our elections and campaigns getting even more dumbed-down by voters who can be swayed by the dumbest phrases such as "death panels" and "war on women" and electing leaders who go out of their way to appeal to the lowest denominator
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2015, 04:22:46 PM »

Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?

We already do that.

Also, felons and non-citizen long-term residents should be able to vote.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2015, 05:16:57 PM »

Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?

We already do that.

Also, felons and non-citizen long-term residents should be able to vote.
I agree felons should be allowed to vote but non-citizens who are long term residents should only be able to vote in local elections not federal or state
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2015, 05:24:38 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

It's not necessarily that the majority of unregistered voters "don't care."  They might not entirely understand the connection between election results and impacts on their own lives, but that isn't necessarily their fault, either.  They might have other legitimate reasons for thinking that the options won't represent their views, also.  We have to give everybody the ability to participate, even the apathetic, as otherwise it undermines the integrity of the process.

A government where 65% of adults aren't voting is not a government that is receptive to any public interests.  It's not that these people don't have opinions about the way this country should be run.  They obviously do.
Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?

What, you mean people for an higher minimum wage and better labor laws but voting for Republicans because abortion? They already vote.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2015, 05:56:13 PM »

Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?

We already do that.

Also, felons and non-citizen long-term residents should be able to vote.
I agree felons should be allowed to vote but non-citizens who are long term residents should only be able to vote in local elections not federal or state

That's quite reasonable.  I think some local jurisdictions do already allow that.
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2015, 04:23:10 PM »

It officially passed; the state senate just voted 17-13 to approve the bill.

http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/03/sweeping_new_motor_voter_bill.html

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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2015, 04:26:47 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

It's not necessarily that the majority of unregistered voters "don't care."  They might not entirely understand the connection between election results and impacts on their own lives, but that isn't necessarily their fault, either.  They might have other legitimate reasons for thinking that the options won't represent their views, also.  We have to give everybody the ability to participate, even the apathetic, as otherwise it undermines the integrity of the process.

A government where 65% of adults aren't voting is not a government that is receptive to any public interests.  It's not that these people don't have opinions about the way this country should be run.  They obviously do.
Yes but are you comfortable with people who do not know any of the candidates and nothing about the office consistently swinging elections?

i think fundamental human rights are more important than whether or not you're comfortable tbh
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