Will Martin O'Malley be able to capitalize on the draft Warren movement?
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« on: February 24, 2015, 12:26:22 AM »
« edited: February 24, 2015, 12:39:28 AM by Zen Lunatic »

There is a constituency I think among progressive Democrats who want an alternative to Hillary but somebody who could reasonably win the nomination as opposed to Sanders who would purely be a movement type candidate. That's part of what's driving the draft Warren movement even though she's adamant about not running. How many of those who want Warren to run will end up supporting O'Malley over Hillary when they realize that she isn't?
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 12:37:38 AM »

Very few. I've seen the comparison between O'Malley and Tim Pawlenty made several times on the forum and I think it's completely legitimate; tbh, Marty is simply too boring. He doesn't excite people in the charismatic fashion that Warren does, and those who love Warren tend to love her for the populist brand that O'Malley doesn't really carry.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 01:25:46 AM »

No, nobody cares about O'Malley and he has no niche. There's not very much overlap between the "Hillary is a far right neoliberal warmonger" group and the "Sanders is a socialist? That's SCARY!" group. Even Webb has more of a niche than O'Malley.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 01:27:47 AM »

No, nobody cares about O'Malley and he has no niche. There's not very much overlap between the "Hillary is a far right neoliberal warmonger" group and the "Sanders is a socialist? That's SCARY!" group. Even Webb has more of a niche than O'Malley.

Maybe environmentalists? He has a pretty decent environmental record as governor. He also froze tuition rates in Maryland which could appeal to some younger voters.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2015, 04:31:07 AM »

No, because he is not Warren.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2015, 08:06:20 AM »

No
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2015, 09:35:35 AM »

Probably not.

Warren has some advantages he doesn't. She's wonky, and can articulate liberal positions well. She wouldn't prevent Democrats from nominating the first female President. And she comes from that big state next to New Hampshire.

She'd still be a significant underdog. So O'Malley would be a much more significant underdog.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2015, 10:16:08 AM »

Is he a woman or a minority? No, so he has no chance at the democratic nomination and that's the harsh truth, moving on...
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2015, 03:24:54 PM »

Very few. I've seen the comparison between O'Malley and Tim Pawlenty made several times on the forum and I think it's completely legitimate; tbh, Marty is simply too boring. He doesn't excite people in the charismatic fashion that Warren does, and those who love Warren tend to love her for the populist brand that O'Malley doesn't really carry.
I would love a O'Malley Pawlenty election. They will offer substance.
 
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2015, 03:42:51 PM »

Very few. I've seen the comparison between O'Malley and Tim Pawlenty made several times on the forum and I think it's completely legitimate; tbh, Marty is simply too boring. He doesn't excite people in the charismatic fashion that Warren does, and those who love Warren tend to love her for the populist brand that O'Malley doesn't really carry.
I would love a O'Malley Pawlenty election. They will offer substance.

LOL, only you bronz...
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2015, 04:17:52 PM »

Very few. I've seen the comparison between O'Malley and Tim Pawlenty made several times on the forum and I think it's completely legitimate; tbh, Marty is simply too boring. He doesn't excite people in the charismatic fashion that Warren does, and those who love Warren tend to love her for the populist brand that O'Malley doesn't really carry.
I would love a O'Malley Pawlenty election. They will offer substance.

LOL, only you bronz...

Actually, that's a good point. The politics of personality has gotten out of hand recently, it wouldn't hurt to have an election with two dull individuals. Of course, it probably wouldn't force people to pay attention to the issues any more than they normally do, it would just come down to the best smear campaign.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 05:17:53 PM »

Is he a woman or a minority? No, so he has no chance at the democratic nomination and that's the harsh truth, moving on...

Where as your poster boy Marco is a hispanic? God forbid.

The Republicans will never elect a white American again, that's  the harsh truth
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 06:06:25 PM »

No, nobody cares about O'Malley and he has no niche. There's not very much overlap between the "Hillary is a far right neoliberal warmonger" group and the "Sanders is a socialist? That's SCARY!" group. Even Webb has more of a niche than O'Malley.

It's bigger than you think.

And O'Malley would be a great President, he's not nearly as boring as Pawlenty.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2015, 08:40:44 PM »

There is no "Draft Warren" movement.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2015, 05:11:27 AM »

The only way any competetor against Hilary wins, now if she shows vulnerability to the GOP. But, since the gas prices and economy is pretty sound, it isnt promising for competetion to Hilary.
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2015, 06:20:56 PM »

Very few. I've seen the comparison between O'Malley and Tim Pawlenty made several times on the forum and I think it's completely legitimate; tbh, Marty is simply too boring. He doesn't excite people in the charismatic fashion that Warren does, and those who love Warren tend to love her for the populist brand that O'Malley doesn't really carry.
You could say the same about 1994 DFL candidate John Marty.  Brainy bleeding heart liberal who just gets upset and flustered when the GOPers pile on him.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2015, 06:45:00 PM »

There is no "Draft Warren" movement.
Liberal groups raised US$1 million in case Warren ran.

Wow she'd only by 999 million behind Hillary in that situation.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2015, 07:31:07 PM »

I actually think Sanders is probably in a better position to channel some of that energy.
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2015, 01:05:36 AM »

I actually think Sanders is probably in a better position to channel some of that energy.

I don't think that he will get every Warren supporter, but I think he'd definitely benefit more than O'Malley.
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