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Question: Vote your hearts out
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Democratic Alliance: Senator Al Gore of Tennessee and Former Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts
 
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American Union: Congressman Jack Kemp of New York and Governor Thomas Kean of New Jersey
 
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Independent: Reverend Jesse Jackson of South Carolina and Former Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota
 
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Total Voters: 40

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« on: February 25, 2015, 06:02:14 PM »

President Howard Metzenbaum has been a controversial leader with little to show over the last four years, and with that, his party abandoned him in the primaries to look for a fresher face with less baggage. That candidate would come in Senator Al Gore, a moderate with a technocratic bent. Gore doubled down on a message of pragmatism for the general election by selecting Paul Tsongas as his running mate. While this strategy was expected to attract independents, it came at the expense of a restless base. Propagated by the frustration of strong progressives (particularly many Metzenbaum supporters), Jesse Jackson announced an insurgent independent bid at the last minute to rally those voters and promote his ideas. The AU's Kemp/Kean ticket is also running a strong campaign, making this election one to watch.

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 06:04:41 PM »

jackson/mccarthy
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 06:06:57 PM »


Ugh, this very reluctantly.  On the bright side, maybe we'll finally get a voting rights act.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 06:16:40 PM »

A left-wing independent bid just when we got finally rid of the Worker's Party? ***n it.

Voted Gore, but would switch to Jackson if I could. now that it seem's he has the best chance of winning.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 06:34:30 PM »

A left-wing independent bid just when we got finally rid of the Worker's Party? ***n it.

Voted Gore, but would switch to Jackson if I could. now that it seem's he has the best chance of winning.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 06:38:32 PM »

To make a note, only one person each respectively posted VP picks for the two parties in the primaries thread. If there's somebody you'd like to see on the ticket, make it known and it could happen. I keep track of this stuff and it does impact elections, as we can see here. Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 07:39:17 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2015, 07:41:12 PM by L.D. Smith, Knight of Appalachia »

To make a note, only one person each respectively posted VP picks for the two parties in the primaries thread. If there's somebody you'd like to see on the ticket, make it known and it could happen. I keep track of this stuff and it does impact elections, as we can see here. Tongue

I'm surprised you went with Tsongas, when Tom Bradley was also a good option (he probably had coattails to negate the Bradley Effect that cost him IRL).

Anyway, still going with Gore...but now more because of the selection of McCarthy for the Jackson ticket. I refuse to vote for the same McCarthy responsible for giving '72 to Taft by such a landslide.

And also more meaningful climate change legislation will come of Gore than anyone else, as well as innovation.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 08:03:30 PM »

Kemp for the win
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 08:06:28 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 08:25:04 PM »

Kemp!
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 11:01:34 PM »

Jackson all the way!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 02:33:53 AM »

Jackson, because I'm bored of voting the defacto Democratic candidate, and to be honest I probably would be a little annoyed with Gore if I were in this timeline.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 06:24:23 AM »

Definitely Jackson.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 03:38:54 PM »

Bump.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 04:09:12 PM »

How appropriate, considering we're at a tie between Jackson and Kemp.


And ironically, the party of Bayh that took the Northeast (and pretty much just the Northeast)  in the last big 3 way election are losing that to Jackson, and dominating the same South that they never were truly competitive in until last election...and even then it was a very very close call and far under half of the Confederacy.

If Jackson wasn't currently leading the West Coast, this would be a straight up ironic flip to 1976.
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2015, 11:09:47 PM »

Well, you guys picked the IT'S HAPPENING option like I wanted. You should be in for a treat when 1992 comes out sometime during the weekend.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2015, 11:45:18 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2015, 07:38:17 AM by L.D. Smith, Knight of Appalachia »



Jackson/McCarthy: 295 EV
Kemp/Kean: 155 EV
Gore/Tsongas: 88 EV


1976 with some minor flips, the EV distribution is roughly the same, the older left faction gets booted to South, and still loses it by a slim minority, the leftist faction continues with Northeast,...and the PV turned out the exact same Tongue

As compiled in the Master Thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178971.msg4497952#msg4497952
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2015, 12:22:43 AM »

I think the black vote would have let Jackson win MS and LA win with a split white vote.
Hilarious scenario though. I voted Gore because I didn't expect Jessementum.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2015, 12:37:11 AM »

I think the black vote would have let Jackson win MS and LA win with a split white vote.
Hilarious scenario though. I voted Gore because I didn't expect Jessementum.

I had considered that (for LA and MS, I considered a narrow Gore win for AL) but a leftist split giving it to Kemp and his hard-headed economics the Deep South love on the Federal level seemed more plausible.

This, along with a growing love (for MS, AL, and LA) for the AU in general.


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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2015, 02:56:23 PM »

If you fiddle with the percentages a little, you can get colors that roughly match the ones in the poll (I used navy for Jackson, since that's what Spiral is using for the Rainbow Alliance in '92):



Reverend Jesse Jackson (Independent-South Carolina)/ Fmr. Senator Eugene McCarthy (Independent-Minnesota): 295 EV; 45% PV
Congressman Jack Kemp (American Union-New York)/ Governor Thomas Kean (American Union-New Jersey): 155 EV; 32.5% PV
Senator Albert A. Gore, Jr. (Democratic Alliance-Tennessee)/Fmr. Senator Paul Tsongas (Democratic Alliance-Massachusetts): 88 EV; 22.5% PV

Granted, it doesn't have PV shades anymore, but you could probably find a way to improvise them.
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