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IceSpear
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« on: February 26, 2015, 03:51:21 AM »

Gotta love 1958. And people act like losing 9 seats is a big deal.

When you lose a majority in Senate (and most chances to regain it until 2020-2022) - it's a BIG deal...

Because gaining 4 seats is so implausible. Roll Eyes
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 03:44:16 PM »

Gotta love 1958. And people act like losing 9 seats is a big deal.

When you lose a majority in Senate (and most chances to regain it until 2020-2022) - it's a BIG deal...

Because gaining 4 seats is so implausible. Roll Eyes

In present political climate it will be difficult, Besides Johnson, Kirk and (IF he runs for President AND stays in that race) Rubio's seat i don't see really top-tier targets right now.  And no, i don't list Ayotte's seat or McCain's (it's Arizona after all) among them so far. If a big Democratic wave materializes - then yes.

There's no reason to think PA and NH aren't vulnerable seats. OH may be in that category too now that Strickland is running, but it's hard to tell since there's been no polls.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 02:04:48 AM »

Gotta love 1958. And people act like losing 9 seats is a big deal.

When you lose a majority in Senate (and most chances to regain it until 2020-2022) - it's a BIG deal...

Because gaining 4 seats is so implausible. Roll Eyes

In present political climate it will be difficult, Besides Johnson, Kirk and (IF he runs for President AND stays in that race) Rubio's seat i don't see really top-tier targets right now.  And no, i don't list Ayotte's seat or McCain's (it's Arizona after all) among them so far. If a big Democratic wave materializes - then yes.

There's no reason to think PA and NH aren't vulnerable seats. OH may be in that category too now that Strickland is running, but it's hard to tell since there's been no polls.

Democrats were rather optimistic 2 month before last November - and what happened?  And while turnout in 2016 will surely be higher, Hillary is not as good turnout motivator as Obama among core Democratic constituency - minorities. She may attract some whites, who voted Republican recently, or at least - reduce their willingness to go Republican, but that's all...

Not really. Most people knew that Dems were going to lose the Senate. The only unexpected part was the size of the wave.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2015, 03:25:07 PM »

Gotta love 1958. And people act like losing 9 seats is a big deal.

When you lose a majority in Senate (and most chances to regain it until 2020-2022) - it's a BIG deal...

Because gaining 4 seats is so implausible. Roll Eyes

In present political climate it will be difficult, Besides Johnson, Kirk and (IF he runs for President AND stays in that race) Rubio's seat i don't see really top-tier targets right now.  And no, i don't list Ayotte's seat or McCain's (it's Arizona after all) among them so far. If a big Democratic wave materializes - then yes.

There's no reason to think PA and NH aren't vulnerable seats. OH may be in that category too now that Strickland is running, but it's hard to tell since there's been no polls.

Democrats were rather optimistic 2 month before last November - and what happened?  And while turnout in 2016 will surely be higher, Hillary is not as good turnout motivator as Obama among core Democratic constituency - minorities. She may attract some whites, who voted Republican recently, or at least - reduce their willingness to go Republican, but that's all...

Not really. Most people knew that Dems were going to lose the Senate. The only unexpected part was the size of the wave.

Please, read DKE archives. Until early September there was almost an ironclad confidence in holding the Senate. Only Montana, West Virginia and South Dakota were considered lost then. Nobody expected Iowa and Colorado to flip, most were optimistic on Alaska and Louisiana (i will not even mention North Carolina here). May be only an Arkansas too... And Democrats expected to win Kansas and something else.

It wouldn't surprise me if Daily Kos thought that. But if they represented all Democrats, Hillary would be trailing by 50 points rather than leading by 50 points.
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