How does Walker beat Hillary?

[tonyreyes89]

I'm starting to think this will be the matchup next year and I'm starting to think (fml) Walker can win.

But how will it happen?

Will it be because of a double dip recession? Hillary suffers a health scare? Scott Walker turns into Ronald Reagan during the debates and makes her look dated?

I think this will be a redefining election for this country just like 1980/2000/2008. And will be highly entertaining. Feel free to discuss with maps if you please.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

By getting more electoral votes.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Hillary has her own version of the 47% tape where she's caught on camera talking mockingly about Walker's lack of a college degree at a Democratic fundraiser attended by wealthy hollywood donors.

[Blair]

-General Obama Fatigue, especially if his approval ratings drop into the low 40's again
-Being a Washington 'outsider', which stupid voters buy every time because we don't like people with experience in congress being presidents
-Being anti-union in a sense of-it's us vs the commie's
-Being tough on ISIS, Iran and Cuba because Benghazi
-Pandering on social issues like Immigration, Gay Marriage and Abortion
-Hoping Hillary runs another poor candidacy like 2008
-Act as a bridge between moderates and tea party republicans, someone who can 'unite' the nation

[The Other Castro]

Like this

[JonathanSwift]

Like this

In this scenario, I think Walker would win Iowa, too.

[RFayette]

Like this

In this scenario, I think Walker would win Iowa, too.

Indeed.

FL and OH will be the toughest of those states for Walker to win.

[Xing]

Probably by hoping that Obama is unpopular enough to put him over the top, and by promising voters that things will be "different" under his administration.

[porky88]

President Obama's last two years will need to mirror President Bush's last two years. So far that hasn't happened, but there's still along ways to go.

[Mister Mets]

A big chunk of the election is going to be out of his hands (IE- Obama's popularity, state of the economy.)

He could run on vision, and accomplishment, while emphaszing areas where Democrats are in the minority, such as late-term abortion, voting rights for illegal immigrants and legal penalties against private citizens who prefer not to participate in gay marriages.

It would make sense to make subtle references to family values. He's been married for 22 years (his wife is twelve years older and lost her first husband to kidney disease) with two sons who have managed to avoid media attention.

[Likely Voter]

Figure out how to get 70%+ of white men to vote for him (bearing min mind GW Bush and Mitt Romney both were only able to squeeze 62% out of that group)

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

This is Hillary we're talking about. In 2000, she ran 15 points behind Gore. In 2008, she blew an inevitable coronation.

[Reaganfan]

This is Hillary we're talking about. In 2000, she ran 15 points behind Gore. In 2008, she blew an inevitable coronation.

To be honest, this.

["'Oeps!' De blunders van Rick Perry Indicted"]

Albert Gore Jr.   Joseph Lieberman   Democratic   4,113,791   60.22%   
George W. Bush   Richard Cheney   Republican   2,405,676   35.22%

Hillary Rodham Clinton   Democratic   3,747,310   55.27%
Rick Lazio   Republican   2,915,730   43.01%

[IceSpear]

This is Hillary we're talking about. In 2000, she ran 15 points behind Gore. In 2008, she blew an inevitable coronation.

Yes, it was such an inevitable coronation that she was trailing John Edwards in Iowa for nearly the entire campaign. This false talking point is getting old.

[Vega]

He doesn't.

[Mechaman]

Albert Gore Jr.   Joseph Lieberman   Democratic   4,113,791   60.22%   
George W. Bush   Richard Cheney   Republican   2,405,676   35.22%

Hillary Rodham Clinton   Democratic   3,747,310   55.27%
Rick Lazio   Republican   2,915,730   43.01%

Mind that Rick Lazio was considered to be a bit more moderate and less "southern" than Bush was and many New Yorkers considered Clinton's run to be blatant carpetbagging/nepotism of some order (hey vote for me I am the President's wife).  Meanwhile, Gore ran the campaign of an admittedly boring technocrat who made trendy liberal issues like gun control and global warming focus points of his campaign and his opponent was widely seen as a hillbilly frat boy by many.

If this comparison proves anything it is that Clinton did pretty well considering she had a bigger challenge (at least in New York state).  And also that she did not run 15 points behind Gore.

EDIT: I see what you did there.

[PresidentTRUMP]

Rarely does a party win the white house three terms in a row....simple as that.

Not to mention Hillary wont face a real primary which IMO will drastically hurt her come the general.

[krazen1211]

White voters.

[Tender Branson]

By counting on "Obama-fatigue" after 8 years, that 2016 will be a low turnout election and then a map ...

Like this

[King]

Rarely does a party win the white house three terms in a row....simple as that.

Except for 1980-1992, 1932-1952, 1920-1932, 1896-1912, 1868-1884, and 1800-1828, totally. Except for those 104 years of our 224 years of presidential elections, it simply never happens.

[King]

Albert Gore Jr.   Joseph Lieberman   Democratic   4,113,791   60.22%   
George W. Bush   Richard Cheney   Republican   2,405,676   35.22%

Hillary Rodham Clinton   Democratic   3,747,310   55.27%
Rick Lazio   Republican   2,915,730   43.01%

Barack H. Obama   Joseph R. Biden, Jr.   Democratic   1,921,761   60.67%
Willard Mitt Romney   Paul Ryan   Republican   1,188,460   37.52%

Elizabeth Warren   Democratic   1,696,346   53.74%
Scott Brown   Republican   1,458,048   46.19%

[bobloblaw]

Rarely does a party win the white house three terms in a row....simple as that.

Except for 1980-1992, 1932-1952, 1920-1932, 1896-1912, 1868-1884, and 1800-1828, totally. Except for those 104 years of our 224 years of presidential elections, it simply never happens.

Ill bet everyone of those instances when the party won a third term, they won a 2nd term by a large margin, not the third closest in history. I do agree that it is more likely to happen in 2016 than in the past because the GOP has the blame of Iraq and Economic meltdown

[bobloblaw]

President Obama's last two years will need to mirror President Bush's last two years. So far that hasn't happened, but there's still along ways to go.

They dont have to be that bad. McCain lost by 7, Hillary can lose by 1. Eisenhower had a bad last two years but not a disaster. Clinton had a pretty good last 2 years policywise but personally they were poor.

[bobloblaw]

Albert Gore Jr.   Joseph Lieberman   Democratic   4,113,791   60.22%   
George W. Bush   Richard Cheney   Republican   2,405,676   35.22%

Hillary Rodham Clinton   Democratic   3,747,310   55.27%
Rick Lazio   Republican   2,915,730   43.01%

This is a pretty good indication of Hillary's lack of popularity. She won by 12 when Gore won by 25. There was clearly no wave of women for Hillary. Gore almost certainly did better among women than Hillary did and frankly with every other Dem group. This is one data point indicating that all of Hillary's strengths are myths.