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Mister Mets
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« on: March 02, 2015, 10:57:47 PM »

A big chunk of the election is going to be out of his hands (IE- Obama's popularity, state of the economy.)

He could run on vision, and accomplishment, while emphaszing areas where Democrats are in the minority, such as late-term abortion, voting rights for illegal immigrants and legal penalties against private citizens who prefer not to participate in gay marriages.

It would make sense to make subtle references to family values. He's been married for 22 years (his wife is twelve years older and lost her first husband to kidney disease) with two sons who have managed to avoid media attention.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 09:27:29 AM »

Rarely does a party win the white house three terms in a row....simple as that.

Except for 1980-1992, 1932-1952, 1920-1932, 1896-1912, 1868-1884, and 1800-1828, totally. Except for those 104 years of our 224 years of presidential elections, it simply never happens.

Ill bet everyone of those instances when the party won a third term, they won a 2nd term by a large margin, not the third closest in history. I do agree that it is more likely to happen in 2016 than in the past because the GOP has the blame of Iraq and Economic meltdown

You would be incorrect. McKinley vs William Jennings Bryan was close, Hayes won controversially in 1876, and it did not effect the party victory 4 years later.

All of this is nonsense anyway. People don't vote based on the position of the stars. Democrats could lose in 2016, they could win 2016, we could go 48 years without another Republican President, we could go 100 years without another Democratic President.  We could go on a string of 20 consecutive one term Presidents each defeated by the next challenger on the opposite party.

Precedent doesn't determine what happens next. Public opinion polls suggest what happens next and they are suggesting Hillary.
Precedent does matter, even if there's no guarantee that patterns will continue.

As for opinion polls, two years ago, there were plenty of times when McCain was leading Obama. Hillary also led Obama in every national poll taken in 2007 (the one exception was a 2007 gallup poll that had a one point lead for Obama but that was if Clinton's husband's Vice President had been in the race, which didn't end up happening.)

Polls and precedent do provide significant information, but it's not a guaranteed indication of the outcome.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 09:31:41 AM »

Next up:

Ronald Reagan   Republican           3,439,664   52.84%
Jesse M. Unruh   Democratic   2,938,607   45.14%

That Reagan has no chance in hell, doesn't he?
California had been pretty close to the national average in the 1964, 1968 and 1972 elections. That's not a bad result for a Republican.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 10:47:49 AM »

It would be wise to make the election about character and trust.

Hillary Clinton is not the candidate who can ever say "You may not agree with me on everything, but I will always tell you the truth" and have people believe her.
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