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« on: February 28, 2015, 09:59:30 PM »
« edited: February 28, 2015, 10:01:58 PM by RR1997 »
We've all heard the statement that "nice guys finish last", but most people refer to dating/sucess with attracting females when using that cliché statement, but do nice guys finish last in general? Some argue that being nice is bad because people will take advantage of your niceness. Others argue that being nice is vital because it will get people to like you, and the help of others will help you suceed. Do nice guys finish last in business/the world of finance? Do nice guys finish last in dating? Do nice guys finish last in regular, everyday life? You guys also have to remember that a lot of times jerks win (example: Mitt Romney). I'm personally a nice guy and I dislike jerks. There are plenty of arguements for both sides, and I want to see what you guys thing.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2015, 10:09:17 PM »
People prefer dealing with nice guys.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 10:11:42 PM »
No, this is such an MRA thing to say.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2015, 10:14:27 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2015, 10:18:54 PM by RR1997 »
Quote from: R2D2 on February 28, 2015, 10:11:42 PM
No, this is such an MRA thing to say.

Eww...I dislike MRAs a lot. I'm just saying that some argue that being nice will hurt you in life because people can easily take advantage of you (I disagree with this), and I just want to see what you guys think.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2015, 10:25:47 PM »
A lot of people, including myself, prefer to date nice guys. I don't think I could ever date a guy with tattoos or piercings. I'm not looking for a pirate.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2015, 10:43:45 PM »
Not enough evidence to convict.  "Niceness" is an entirely subjective term.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2015, 11:09:55 PM »
Quote from: retromike22 on February 28, 2015, 10:25:47 PM
A lot of people, including myself, prefer to date nice guys. I don't think I could ever date a guy with tattoos or piercings. I'm not looking for a pirate.

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What do tattoos or piercings have to do with whether or not somebody has a "nice" personality?
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2015, 11:33:42 PM »
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 28, 2015, 11:09:55 PM
Quote from: retromike22 on February 28, 2015, 10:25:47 PM
A lot of people, including myself, prefer to date nice guys. I don't think I could ever date a guy with tattoos or piercings. I'm not looking for a pirate.

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What do tattoos or piercings have to do with whether or not somebody has a "nice" personality?

The same thing that beards mean lol
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2015, 11:34:45 PM »
This thread is so Atlas Forum
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2015, 12:58:40 AM »
This was the topic of one of the absolute worst (as in horrible, vile and disgusting) threads in recent Atlas history, so I suggest you lock this before it turns out to be a similar disaster.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2015, 02:22:09 AM »
It depends on what you're after, where you are, and who you hang around. Some social contexts run on fierce competition, some are more receptive toward a more gentle manner. So you want to find somewhere you can thrive.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2015, 02:25:31 AM »
This thead is going to be a gigantic f**king sh*t show.

Oh wait!
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2015, 03:07:00 AM »
Quote from: Governor Flo on February 28, 2015, 11:33:42 PM
Quote from: Vox Populi on February 28, 2015, 11:09:55 PM
Quote from: retromike22 on February 28, 2015, 10:25:47 PM
A lot of people, including myself, prefer to date nice guys. I don't think I could ever date a guy with tattoos or piercings. I'm not looking for a pirate.

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What do tattoos or piercings have to do with whether or not somebody has a "nice" personality?

The same thing that beards mean lol

I interpreted the OP wrong, i thought he meant 'nice guy'  as in the stereotypical 'nice guy' vs 'alternative' or 'rebel' stereotype. Not 'nice' personality, which can be found anywhere.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2015, 03:20:40 AM »
The need for niceness depends on the situation, of course.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2015, 06:04:53 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2015, 06:06:41 AM by Antonio V »
To some extent, yes - and I blame patriarchy for that. The norms of masculinity tend to reward aggressiveness and "toughness".
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2015, 06:12:48 AM »
No, I do not think of the world in such terms (not a fedora'd monstrosity).

Sorry, I mean, a lot of betas in this thread
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2015, 06:15:12 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2015, 06:36:19 AM by Beet »
All this means is that if you're a meek, humble guy uninteresting enough such that the best adjective that describes you is "nice", then success is less likely to come to you in this society. I say this as someone who gets called a nice guy. We need to get over ourselves. Whether you're a guy or not, being "nice" has disadvantages as well as advantages.

Edit: And the opposite/alternative to 'nice guy' is not a 'jerk'. It's literally anything other than 'nice'.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2015, 06:39:55 AM »
No. Being nice helps you a lot provided you know what you want and dare to say no now and then.
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2015, 07:22:48 AM »
Of course not, but being 'nice' shouldn't be confused with being a pushover or not being ambitious or determined.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2015, 08:01:51 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2015, 08:09:30 AM by RR1997 »
Quote from: Beet on March 01, 2015, 06:15:12 AM

Edit: And the opposite/alternative to 'nice guy' is not a 'jerk'. It's literally anything other than 'nice'.

^^

Yeah this is true too. I made a mistake on my last last post.

I think that some people do not understand what I'm trying to ask. I'm asking if nice guys finish last in everyday life, not dating.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2015, 08:27:07 AM »
Quote from: Senator Polnut on March 01, 2015, 07:22:48 AM
Of course not, but being 'nice' shouldn't be confused with being a pushover or not being ambitious or determined.

Sure, but being a bit shy/awkward/humble/unassertive/quiet doesn't make someone a pushover either.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2015, 08:57:56 AM »
I realize this is going to sound cliche.  But, in my experience, you have to be who you are.  If you're faithful to who you are, you'll find the people, the circumstances, and the work that are right for you.  Finding the right life for yourself is a hell of a lot more important than chasing after what other people say about either "nice guys" or "finishing last."  We all finish at the same place, in the grave, so I don't listen to crap about finishing last.  Be true to yourself.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2015, 09:03:36 AM »
I would say more often than not it's true.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2015, 09:58:06 AM »
Quote from: Antonio V on March 01, 2015, 08:27:07 AM
Quote from: Senator Polnut on March 01, 2015, 07:22:48 AM
Of course not, but being 'nice' shouldn't be confused with being a pushover or not being ambitious or determined.

Sure, but being a bit shy/awkward/humble/unassertive/quiet doesn't make someone a pushover either.

With all those together... I would say it might.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2015, 10:51:26 AM »
I hope not.

I'd say the answer is pretty nuanced, but I'd like to thinks it's generally not true.
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