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« on: April 26, 2005, 05:33:10 AM »
« edited: April 26, 2005, 06:12:46 AM by Dean »
I say no.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 05:48:50 AM »
It depends on the circumstances.  Preferably no, but I wouldn't rule out compulsory service in extreme circumstances.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2005, 06:58:55 AM »
Quote from: dazzleman on April 26, 2005, 05:48:50 AM
It depends on the circumstances.  Preferably no, but I wouldn't rule out compulsory service in extreme circumstances.

Correct dazzleman - I'm all for individual rights, but the State's first priority will always be its own survival.  If it is truly under threat, everything else is out the window.  However I for one would still run away.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2005, 10:15:52 AM »
Possibly.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2005, 10:31:41 AM »
 no.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2005, 11:22:29 AM »
I say no except in time of war (declared by congress). If the nation's survival is at risk you must do whatever it takes to win. I say that with great reservation because I don't trust government at all. They could declare a permanent war on terrorism or Oceana or some other fictitious enemy and put everyone in the service forever. But hopefully we would be smart enough to throw them all out of office at the next election if they did.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2005, 11:33:38 PM »
Quote from: David S on April 26, 2005, 11:22:29 AM
But hopefully we would be smart enough to throw them all out of office at the next election if they did.


What if hey become a fascist state? That's exactly how Hitler came into power.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2005, 11:39:11 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2005, 11:42:49 PM by nickshepDEM »
Do you guys think 2 years of mandatory service after HS graduation would help to clean up society a little?

(Clean up society is pretty broad... What I mean is, lower crime rates, place added emphasis on personal responsibility, increase moral values, etc...)
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2005, 11:42:06 PM »
I do Nick. There's nothing that most kids my age need more than two years of hard work to mature them and prepare them for whatever follows.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2005, 11:43:40 PM »
No, not under any circumstance.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2005, 11:47:20 PM »
Quote from: nickshepDEM on April 26, 2005, 11:39:11 PM
Do you guys think 2 years of mandatory service after HS graduation would help to clean up society a little?

(Clean up society is pretty broad... What I mean is, lower crime rates, place added emphasis on personal responsibility, increase moral values, etc...)


no, it just means we waste money on lots of soldiers who have no intention of staying for any longer than they have to, don't want to be there and kill morale, and I can't imagine just how much I would hate having to be in the military and for that reason alone I oppose as I would never go into it. Yuck.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2005, 11:48:10 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2005, 11:52:16 PM by nickshepDEM »
Quote from: Jake on April 26, 2005, 11:42:06 PM
I do Nick. There's nothing that most kids my age need more than two years of hard work to mature them and prepare them for whatever follows.

I sorta' feel the same way.  And for the kids who arent cutout for the military... Set them up with a civilian job (through the military), but only after they complete the mandatory boot camp and training.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2005, 11:49:56 PM »
Exactly, mainly barely paid slaves is what I'm thinking of for those who can't/don't want to fight. Respect human rights of course.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2005, 01:42:46 AM »
Military service no.
But everyone should be given military training.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2005, 03:34:45 PM »
It depends on the circumstances. But I donīt have a problem with compulsorary service
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2005, 05:48:28 PM »
I'm against compulsory service under all circumstances. It is quite unjust to deprive arbitrarily chosen citizens of their lives, limbs, or liberty, merely to protect the same rights of other people.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2005, 07:21:49 PM »
No, under all circumstances.  If we need more troops we should do what corporate America does, RAISE PAY!
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2005, 07:45:17 PM »
Being forced to go to war to defend freedom is kind of defeating the purpose. If my way of life truly was being threatened I would fight to protect it - and I'm sure everyone else would do the same. It is not up to the government to tell people to kill themselves for something they don't believe in.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2005, 12:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Dean on April 26, 2005, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: David S on April 26, 2005, 11:22:29 AM
But hopefully we would be smart enough to throw them all out of office at the next election if they did.


What if hey become a fascist state? That's exactly how Hitler came into power.

The military draft has been used during war time throughout our history  and we have not succumbed to that yet.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2005, 12:46:33 PM »
ONLY if there is fighting on US soil.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2005, 10:20:04 PM »
Absolutely not.  Forced service in the military is ridiculous.
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2005, 10:42:25 AM »
Quote from: NewFederalist on April 26, 2005, 10:01:25 AM
No. Slaves make lousy defenders of freedom.
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2005, 10:59:12 AM »
Definitely not. Mandating patriotism is counterproductive.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2005, 08:09:40 PM »
Keep it voluntary!
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2005, 03:51:00 PM »
It works in Israel.
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