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Tender Branson
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E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« on: March 07, 2015, 09:32:34 AM »

48-44 Clinton/Walker
49-42 Clinton/Bush
49-42 Clinton/Rubio
51-40 Clinton/Paul
51-42 Clinton/Perry
53-39 Clinton/Cruz

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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 09:54:27 AM »

So, Hillary already dropped 5% or so this week compared to previous polls and she'll likely drop another 5% right after she announces her run.

Creating a tied race already.

And in the end she might lose too (maybe even in a landslide).

I told you Hillary-fetishists early about this, but you were not listening ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 10:07:07 AM »

Am I missing something? She still looks solidly ahead of the field to me and her margins against Paul and Bush (the only two options remaining from the last poll) are still as large. What's with the gloating?

Her lead over Bush is cut in half though since their last poll. And this poll was not even done fully after her email-scandal. Most people are only reading and hearing about it over the weekend.

And as the number of her scandals increases in the next 18 months, she'll drop even more.

Just look at Walker: She leads this guy by only 4 points now, but she's universally known and Walker is only known to half of all Americans. THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL ! Maybe she will eventually cry her way over the finish line, like in NH once ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 10:25:51 AM »

Note the strange bedfellows. If the people backing you up in arguments that Hillary isn't a sure thing are also people who want Scott Walker to be elected President, check yourself. You may be getting duped.

I'm not getting "duped" by anyone. I'm just not a blind believer in the "Hillary will sail to victory next year" theory. There are too many of them here anyway. As much as I had a good feeling about Obama's election chances in 2008 and 2012, I have a bad feeling about Hillary's chances. It's a 50/50-mix of her own baggage and persona and the fact that 2016 could see record lows in turnout, like in 2000, and a Democratic fatigue after 8 years of Obama. All this is toxic and allows a Republican victory.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 04:11:38 AM »

All I want to say IceSpear is: Just don't be too surprised (or disappointed) if President-elect Scott Walker or Jeb Bush give their victory speech on Nov. 8, 2016 - while a (crying ?) Hillary Clinton announces her retirement from politics. For good.

Hillary A) does not fire up the Democratic base and B) she may very well be a reason why Indies will stay home in droves. It all happened back in 2000 too (and 2016 is shaping up like 2000 again). There's no reason to believe that 2016 will be a high turnout election like 2008/2012, which will favour the Republicans (especially after the Dem. disaster in 2014).

I'll ask you again how you feel about her chances in a few months when she has announced her candidacy and already has negative favorable ratings and trails Bush and Walker in the polls ...
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