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« on: March 07, 2015, 01:28:11 PM »

Well?
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 01:29:52 PM »

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A very mixed bag, but overall he left the UK better than he found it (which of course is not saying much).
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 01:30:10 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 01:31:06 PM »

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2015, 01:40:17 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2015, 01:42:28 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2015, 01:44:00 PM by Charlotte Hebdo »

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.

Labour is far from dead and the Blair governments did implement a number of sensible and successful policies.

And any PM that gets reelected several times is not "the definition of failure".
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 01:52:46 PM »

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.

Labour is far from dead and the Blair governments did implement a number of sensible and successful policies.

And any PM that gets reelected several times is not "the definition of failure".
Labour is dead, get over it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2015, 01:58:45 PM »

Better than his most fierce critics would claim; as previously said his government implemented significant reforms and his overall standing will probably be more positive in half a century's time. Still, it is difficult to ignore the Iraq fiasco.

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2015, 02:19:01 PM »

I would tend to give his government (which did a hell of a lot, particularly in its first term) higher makes than the man himself.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2015, 02:26:28 PM »

Ask me in 10 years.

He's a rare phenomenon of a former PM who's popularity has likely fallen steadily since he left.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2015, 02:36:53 PM »

Godawful.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 02:52:58 PM »

Low A, high B, depending on which day you ask me.

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.

In what universe could Blair be considered the "definition of failure"?
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2015, 02:55:09 PM »

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.

In what universe could Blair be considered the "definition of failure"?
My own subjective reality.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 02:57:57 PM »

The definition of failure, along with putting the nails in the coffin of the Labour party.

In what universe could Blair be considered the "definition of failure"?
My own subjective reality.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2015, 03:23:12 PM »

B-, just a notch above a C.  His reforms were overall good but he was himself quite an odious man and he was too interventionist for my taste.  I can't think of a major reform I majorly disapprove of except his House of Lords reform and his licensing reform (i.e. expanding drinking hours).  I like what he did on Europe, immigration, and social policy notwithstanding - no Conservative Government could have done as well as him in those respects.  If he didn't do the things that earned him the nickname 'Bush's Poodle', I'd enthusiastically I'd grade him A-.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2015, 03:29:07 PM »

Low A, high B, depending on which day you ask me.

Ugh, grade inflation.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2015, 03:48:51 PM »


What a bizarre thing to say.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2015, 03:52:29 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2015, 04:18:11 PM »

The government did a lot to help the cause of many working-class British people. Maybe it didn't do the full progressive hog, but I'm not one of those left wingers who feel inclined to throw everybody under the towel for not being perfect.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2015, 06:44:23 PM »

First term, around a B or something. He was pretty good for the most part, and I wouldn't have had much qualms in voting for him in 01.

Then Iraq happened.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2015, 06:53:31 AM »

The british left can't accept that Blair was very popular, and very good at progressive policies. The left seem to want progess but only it comes through state ownership. Just look at what he achieved.

-Introduced the minimum wage, that's right before Blair it didn't exist
-Doubled Maternity leave, and introduced Paternity leave
-Intervened in Sierra Leon and Kosovo
-Finished the Northern Ireland peace process
-Lead EU reform, whilst keeping the UK out the Euro
-Introduced tough and neccessary anti-terror laws
-Reformed the house of lords, and made it more democratic
-Massive investment in the NHS and Schools

Britain was crap in 1997 after 18 years of tory rule. TB sorted it out. Perhaps I'm bias though
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2015, 08:49:06 AM »

The government did a lot to help the cause of many working-class British people. Maybe it didn't do the full progressive hog, but I'm not one of those left wingers who feel inclined to throw everybody under the towel for not being perfect.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2015, 08:55:08 AM »

The british left can't accept that Blair was very popular, and very good at progressive policies. The left seem to want progess but only it comes through state ownership. Just look at what he achieved.

-Introduced the minimum wage, that's right before Blair it didn't exist
-Doubled Maternity leave, and introduced Paternity leave
-Intervened in Sierra Leon and Kosovo
-Finished the Northern Ireland peace process
-Lead EU reform, whilst keeping the UK out the Euro
-Introduced tough and neccessary anti-terror laws
-Reformed the house of lords, and made it more democratic
-Massive investment in the NHS and Schools

Britain was crap in 1997 after 18 years of tory rule. TB sorted it out. Perhaps I'm bias though

A lot of that isn't "progressive" in the slightest.
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 12:06:44 PM »

The british left can't accept that Blair was very popular, and very good at progressive policies. The left seem to want progess but only it comes through state ownership. Just look at what he achieved.

-Introduced the minimum wage, that's right before Blair it didn't exist
-Doubled Maternity leave, and introduced Paternity leave
-Intervened in Sierra Leon and Kosovo
-Finished the Northern Ireland peace process
-Lead EU reform, whilst keeping the UK out the Euro
-Introduced tough and neccessary anti-terror laws
-Reformed the house of lords, and made it more democratic
-Massive investment in the NHS and Schools

Britain was crap in 1997 after 18 years of tory rule. TB sorted it out. Perhaps I'm bias though

A lot of that isn't "progressive" in the slightest.

Yes it, look at the what labour inherited in 1997. The country was a mess.

If you want one example of where labour were progressive look at LGBT rights-repealed section 28 despite resistance from the tories, introduced civil partnerships and gay adoption. That's what a true social progressive would of done
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