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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2015, 12:28:48 PM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Then, wouldn't that in effect abolish Daylight time by it becoming the standard time?
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2015, 12:31:43 PM »

Simple solution: set the clock 1/2 hour ahead at DST. Then leave it that way forever.
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2015, 12:46:02 PM »

Permanently.  My body never adjusts to Standard Time
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2015, 01:27:57 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.

Certainly better than changing clocks twice a year.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2015, 02:23:06 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.

Again, rather than moving the clocks forward and leaving them there, why not just change people's working hours to later in the day?
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2015, 09:10:28 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.

Again, rather than moving the clocks forward and leaving them there, why not just change people's working hours to later in the day?


That would be anti-savings time.  To get the same effect without changing clocks, you'd move schedules to be earlier in the day.  But as already pointed out, it generally is the case that people hate mornings, hence the itch to move daylight hours from morning to afternoon.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2015, 09:30:35 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.

Again, rather than moving the clocks forward and leaving them there, why not just change people's working hours to later in the day?


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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2015, 09:57:18 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Then, wouldn't that in effect abolish Daylight time by it becoming the standard time?

Yes, it is completely irrational.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2015, 10:07:54 AM »

Still would be preferable to the stupid clock switching. Isn't that what Saskatchewan does too?
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2015, 10:25:37 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Then, wouldn't that in effect abolish Daylight time by it becoming the standard time?

Yes, it is completely irrational.

I would very much like the new standard.  (Irrational normal)
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2015, 03:15:05 PM »

It really messed me up this time around.

I have for a long time been rather hostile to it.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2015, 07:45:31 PM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2015, 08:54:52 PM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.

Again, rather than moving the clocks forward and leaving them there, why not just change people's working hours to later in the day?


That would be anti-savings time.  To get the same effect without changing clocks, you'd move schedules to be earlier in the day.  But as already pointed out, it generally is the case that people hate mornings, hence the itch to move daylight hours from morning to afternoon.

Sorry, yes, I meant an hour earlier in the day.

But I don't get "people hate mornings", because these two options are equivalent:

1) Keep standard time year round, but have everyone shift their schedules one hour earlier.
2) Have daylight time year round, but have everyone work at the same time they do now.

Those are exactly the same re: the actual hours people are awake, except that what you call "9am" in one case is called "10am" in another case, and so on.  The one difference is that in the standard time option, there's an actual astronomical correspondence to the clock (the Sun transiting at about noon).  So why mess with that?
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2015, 09:07:24 PM »

No, and let's get rid of separate time zones while we're at it.

Wait, what? Is this serious, or subtle dry trolling?

It would make a lot of analysis and scheduling much simpler if everyone were measuring time consistently and recording the same time stamps regardless of location. DST just makes the entire situation even worse, because it undermines the one reason that time zones are convenient. What's the point in having separate time zones if they aren't even oriented around solar noon?

Suppose I want to call someone on the phone in Australia. Right now, before doing so, I check what time it is there. If it's 8 pm in Australia, it's a reasonable time to call. If it's 3 am there, it's not a reasonable time to call.

Now suppose there are no time zones, so when it's 8:00 world time in Wisconsin, it's 8:00 world time in Australia. But that tells me nothing about whether it's the day or the middle of the night there. In order to know whether I'd wake them up, I'd have to convert 8:00 to some measure of how long it's been day or night. Wouldn't this measure just be essentially a time zone?
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2015, 10:04:50 PM »

Yes, I like having more sunlight in the evening, when I'm actually up. Though the change is pretty rough. I'm about to take some NyQuil to drug me to sleep, so I should be adjusted by Friday morning.
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2015, 07:58:54 AM »

Daylight savings time should be kept. Standard time should of course be abolished.

Yeah, this.
This would mean: No light for me in my part of the world in the winter before 9 am. THAT's just insane.
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« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2015, 10:29:03 AM »

That wouldn't bother me. I'm usually sleeping at 9 anyway.
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2015, 09:22:26 PM »

The one difference is that in the standard time option, there's an actual astronomical correspondence to the clock (the Sun transiting at about noon).  So why mess with that?

What's so important about having 12 noon on the clock be near solar noon?  After all, the principle behind Daylight Savings Time is essentially about trying to keep 6 am on the clock to be near solar dawn while having the benefit of hours of constant duration.  In a real sense both are equally arbitrary preferences.

Still, the whole history of time zones and standard time confirms that there is a real bias on the part of most humans in favor of having more hours of afternoon than of forenoon.
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