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afleitch
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« on: March 08, 2015, 01:06:13 PM »

Okay. Put keystrokes to screen here.

Rules: You are allowed to update your prediction once a week until the last week. Then you can update  on the final day before polls close.

Vote Shares (GB only)

Conservatives -
Labour -
Liberal Democrats -
UKIP -
Greens -
Scottish/Welsh Nationalist -

Seats

Conservatives -
Labour -
Liberal Democrats -
UKIP -
Greens -
SNP-
Plaid-
Galloway-
Other-

Likely Government -

Scotland - Vote share and seats

Labour
SNP
Liberal Democrats
Conservative
Greens
UKIP
Others

Constituency winner (3 interesting seats per region and Nick Clegg's seat)

Gordon-
Glasgow North-
Stirling-

Berwick Upon Tweed-
Stockton South -
Redcar-

Bury North-
Southport-
Heywood and Middleton-

Rotherham-
Colne Valley-
Bradford West-
Sheffield Hallam-

Boston and Skegness-
Broxtowe-
Loughborough-

Worcester-
Dudley South
Warwickshire North-

Ynys Mon-
Ceredigion-
Vale of Glamorgan-

Camborne and Redruth-
Bristol West-
Wells-

Brighton Pavillion-
Thanet South-
Rochester and Strood-

Kingston and Surbiton
Battersea-
Enfield North-

Norwich South-
Clacton-
Thurrock-
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 07:02:08 AM »
« Edited: March 10, 2015, 07:08:15 AM by afleitch »

Labour won a majority of seats in England alone in 2005 despite polling fewer votes than the Conservatives. Broadly speaking the electoral system tends to favour Labour when Labour does well and to have a more neutral effect otherwise.

Well that was more to do with Blair's 'Heineken' effect and was probably more of an exception to the rule, but broadly speaking I'd agree. It's worth noting that in 2010 when compared to 1992, as a % of seats won in England, both the Tories and Labour were generally at the same level (both lower, but similarly apart) and in 2010, the Tories did better in Wales than they did in 1992. Scotland is the exception of course and combined with the Lib Dems ensured that the election didn't completely mirror 1992.

Given that I think it's the most comparable election, particularly demographically then I would argue that because Blair wasn't there (rather than anything Cameron did), the association built up from 1994-2007 was 'broken'; most areas of the country reverted back to where it was before Blair. (1992 was itself a partial unwinding from Thatcher)

I think that's our starting point.

So if polls swing to produce a 2005 vote share scenario, I don't think that we will necessarily see a 2005 style spread of seats throughout the country.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2015, 12:11:33 PM »

Now, if Labour "needed" the SNP for the numbers, if they were clever, they could surely call their bluff and dare the SNP to vote them out, basically throwing the Tories a chance to form a new government.
That could be a brilliant move.  You could legitimately blame the SNP for a Tory entering 10 Downing Street.
But not everyone could be convinced.  Whether it is wise playing their bluff depends on what the cause of disagreement is.

Guys you're basically describing how Margaret Thatcher first became Prime Minister

Exactly. And we all know how that went down with people north of the border.

Sigh.

I don't know why people seem to think that Callaghan could have went on and on if it wasn't for the no confidence vote, there had to be a GE within a few months anyway.

With respect to the SNP, they had a bad year in 1979 because they lost their seats back to the Tories. The only two they retained were seats where their opponents were Labour. In terms of their opinion poll rating, it had tumbled since the winter of 1978, but wasn't affected by the no confidence vote. The SNP supported no confidence on the basis that the Scotland Act was not implemented because of the wrecking amendment in the bill. Had they not backed the vote of no confidence, the end result of the 1979 election in Scotland would have been the same.
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