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Question: Who was the worst?
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William Mackenzie King		  
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Louis St. Laurent		  
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John Diefenbaker		  
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Lester Pearson		  
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Pierre Trudeau		  
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Joe Clark		  
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John Turner		  
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Brian Mulroney		  
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Kim Campbell		  
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Jean Chretien		  
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Paul Martin		  
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Stephen Harper		  
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« on: March 08, 2015, 03:08:03 PM »
I tend to think Mulroney.
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 03:12:16 PM »
Wrong board. IP stuff (or History).
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 03:14:26 PM »

What do you suggest I do then? Can it be moved?
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 03:23:59 PM »
Quote from: tara gilesbie on March 08, 2015, 03:14:26 PM

What do you suggest I do then? Can it be moved?

A mod can do it. PM one.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 03:27:16 PM »

Okay. Thank you.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2015, 03:43:24 PM »
For a long time I would've said Mulroney, but I think Harper takes the cake now.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2015, 03:43:51 PM »
Sadly, it's the current one (through Mulroney wouldn't be far).
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2015, 07:44:06 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2015, 09:53:35 PM by tara gilesbie »
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on March 08, 2015, 03:43:24 PM
For a long time I would've said Mulroney, but I think Harper takes the cake now.

Why? I not a fan of Harper whatsoever, but I can't see how he can even try to be worse than Mulroney. Flagrant corruption, insane "constitutional reform" proposals, annihilating Ontario's industrial base with free trade, reviving Quebec and Western separatism, install an extremely regressive tax, and literally destroying a political party defined the Mulroney years. Harper seems such medicore in comparison.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2015, 09:58:00 AM »
Mulroney is pretty terrible, but at least he has some redeeming qualities that Harper does not. And Harper has just as many terrible policies.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2015, 11:13:46 AM »
Harper, obviously.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2015, 12:54:01 PM »
Mulroney is the reason I became interested in electoral politics in the first place. Swine.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2015, 04:52:53 PM »
For all the left's bitching complaints about Harper's "dictatorship" it was Trudeau who actually suspended habeus corpus.

Combine this with his rampant social liberalism and an economic policy so bungling it boggles the mind and you easily have the worst PM.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2015, 05:04:20 PM »
Quote from: DC Al Fine on March 09, 2015, 04:52:53 PM
For all the left's bitching complaints about Harper's "dictatorship" it was Trudeau who actually suspended habeus corpus.9)

Combine this with his rampant social liberalism and an economic policy so bungling it boggles the mind and you easily have the worst PM.

I voted Trudeau as well for that.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2015, 06:00:37 PM »
Oh noes rampant social liberalism!!!
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2015, 08:57:20 PM »
You forgot foreign policy, DC. Tongue I also voted Trudeau.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2015, 11:55:12 PM »
Interesting how the right totally focuses it's fire on Trudeau.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2015, 03:40:05 PM »
Who else are the going to vote for?

King was the worst Liberal on this list, but not for reasons the right cares about.

Turner was the least competent, but he wasn't in there long enough to do any "rampant social liberalism". Paul Martin was more competent, but wasn't in there for very long. Also, he was an awful Finance Minister.

St. Laurent and Chretien were pretty good leaders, and Pearson was probably the best *person* to ever be Prime Minister.  
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2015, 03:54:47 PM »
Difficult between Pearson and Trudeau -- I'd say Pearson had more of an overall negative impact, but that was mainly from his time as Foreign Minister, whereas as Prime Minister he was pretty inoffensive. Trudeau, in the context of Prime Minister, was far worse. Still voted Pearson, since Trudeau has a bunch of votes while Pearson has none at all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2015, 03:58:57 PM »
Who picked Joe Clark and Kim Campbell?
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2015, 04:00:45 PM »
Pearson? Really?

Quote from: tara gilesbie on March 10, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Who picked Joe Clark and Kim Campbell?

Actually, Kim Campbell routinely ranks last on historical lists of best Prime Ministers. She wasn't in there for very long, and she led her party to ruins. I feel bad for her; She's another good person. The 1993 campaign was pretty terrible though, and it wasn't helped that it was managed by non other than current Toronto Mayor John Tory.
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2015, 04:10:28 PM »
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on March 10, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
Pearson? Really?

Quote from: tara gilesbie on March 10, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Who picked Joe Clark and Kim Campbell?

Actually, Kim Campbell routinely ranks last on historical lists of best Prime Ministers. She wasn't in there for very long, and she led her party to ruins. I feel bad for her; She's another good person. The 1993 campaign was pretty terrible though, and it wasn't helped that it was managed by non other than current Toronto Mayor John Tory.


I'm guessing that they has such short governments must be why they were chosen, though neither are really responsible for that.

Tory was the one that approved the "face" ad about Chretien if I remember correctly?
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2015, 04:19:38 PM »
Short term Prime Ministers really shouldn't be on any best/worst lists. Their impact was too small.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2015, 10:27:21 AM »
Quote from: tara gilesbie on March 10, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: 🍁 Hatman on March 10, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
Pearson? Really?

Quote from: tara gilesbie on March 10, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Who picked Joe Clark and Kim Campbell?

Actually, Kim Campbell routinely ranks last on historical lists of best Prime Ministers. She wasn't in there for very long, and she led her party to ruins. I feel bad for her; She's another good person. The 1993 campaign was pretty terrible though, and it wasn't helped that it was managed by non other than current Toronto Mayor John Tory.


I'm guessing that they has such short governments must be why they were chosen, though neither are really responsible for that.

Tory was the one that approved the "face" ad about Chretien if I remember correctly?

Yes. John Tory has been terrible at everything he has done. I can't believe Toronto elected him as mayor. Well I can, Torontonians are idiots.

Quote from: DC Al Fine on March 10, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
Short term Prime Ministers really shouldn't be on any best/worst lists. Their impact was too small.

What would the cut off be? Does Martin count as short term?
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 10:50:50 AM »
My cutoff would be "winning an election."
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2015, 01:40:20 PM »
So Joe Clark is in, despite only serving less than a year? There are PMs who served longer who never did win an election.
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